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That's not how it works...

If you ask your boss for a pay-rise because your cost of living is going up, you'll get laughed out of the room.

One vacancy, 100 applicants... the wage will be low. Five vacancies, one applicant... the wage will go up. This is simple stuff.
Inflation is running now at about 3.2% factor in higher utility bills, higher taxes, increased NI contributions and you start to see that you would require a pay rise around the 6% mark to basically maintain your standard of living.

I don’t see many employers handing out such pay rises, therefore as I see it we are mostly going to be worse off.

Viva Brexit eh?
 
Austerity over as well then...
You’re saying working class people have more money due to brexit, I’m saying they certainly don’t.

Too many people competing for the same low paid job = lower wages.

Too many people competing for the same first-time buyer house = higher house prices.

Put the two together, this is a bad combination for the working class.

Less competition for jobs = higher wages. Less competition for housing = lower house prices.
 
The shops aren't empty. There is some minor disruption. Show me a picture of an empty shop in the UK.

Petrol stations are mostly back to normal. It was a three-day panic, fueled by the media. Old news.

I never mentioned truckers. You mentioned truckers. And it's not just "a few" truckers. It is widespread wage increases for the masses.

It sounds like you are a business leader/owner? You are clearly more concerned about protecting corporate profits than wage increases?

Well that’s a lie.

Went to top up on Monday night, no fuel.

I drove from Warrington to London tonight and I had to go to three petrol stations because the first two were empty, all three at various stages of the 180 mile journey. There were also warning signs at J15A on the M1 informing drivers there was no diesel at those services, so that’s 4/5 petrol stations I saw in a 24 hour period that had either no fuel at all or no diesel.
 
Well that’s a lie.

Went to top up on Monday night, no fuel.

I drove from Warrington to London tonight and I had to go to three petrol stations because the first two were empty, all three at various stages of the 180 mile journey. There were also warning signs at J15A on the M1 informing drivers there was no diesel at those services, so that’s 4/5 petrol stations I saw in a 24 hour period that had either no fuel at all or no diesel.
I said mostly, not all. So, not a lie.
 
Great stuff the shops are empty and petrol stations can't get fuel but a few truckers are getting a higher wage due to massive shortages of labour.

What a massive benefit.

Ha ha ha.

Shops empty... utter crap in the last 4 weeks of shopping the only thing I couldn't get was twirly pasta... so I got penne pasta.
 
Too many people competing for the same low paid job = lower wages.

Too many people competing for the same first-time buyer house = higher house prices.

Put the two together, this is a bad combination for the working class.

Less competition for jobs = higher wages. Less competition for housing = lower house prices.
You are missing out a few steps there mate.

Higher wages inevitably mean higher prices.

Higher inflation leads to higher interest rates. So whilst house prices might be falling, the burden of a mortgage won’t be.

Those higher wages won’t necessarily cover the increase cost of living.
 
Too many people competing for the same low paid job = lower wages.

Too many people competing for the same first-time buyer house = higher house prices.

Put the two together, this is a bad combination for the working class.

Less competition for jobs = higher wages. Less competition for housing = lower house prices.
The jobs at the low end are usually where there are a large number of people doing the role. A manufacturer won't employ someone on more than someone who is already doing the role. Their wage will rise as cost of living will force it but it won't be high enough to cover the price increases. Labour costs go on the price of goods, they will simply pass it on to the consumer. Not in all case will it happen immediately as rival companies will try to increase market share by exploiting those that have increased early, but they will eventually increase their price.

The jobs that will benefit are those where there are a skills shortage and the company needs to retain them, usually already well paid roles. 4% of 20k isn't as good as 4% plus bonus of 60k, so all it does is increase the divide.

Houses will be bought with those looking to invest their extra cash as money in the bank is meaningless. Less materials and less migrant labour will mean a slow down in house building, which will push the price higher. The people in control have so much invested in bricks and mortar that they will do everything to maintain prices, they won't go down.
 
Not that I’ve seen. It’s a disaster for thousands of people who want a life outside the U.K.
Well not exactly a disaster (yet) as far as we're concerned.
We have to reapply for our "titre de séjour" résidence permit, we cannot now send presents etc to the UK without tedious customs forms, many on line businesses no longer deliver to France.
We have limited staying time should we want to visit neighbouring countries, and that's just a few of the inconveniences put on us by the brilliant brexit deal.
We're a retired couple, it is much more difficult for those trying to run a business here.
 
Well not exactly a disaster (yet) as far as we're concerned.
We have to reapply for our "titre de séjour" résidence permit, we cannot now send presents etc to the UK without tedious customs forms, many on line businesses no longer deliver to France.
We have limited staying time should we want to visit neighbouring countries, and that's just a few of the inconveniences put on us by the brilliant brexit deal.
We're a retired couple, it is much more difficult for those trying to run a business here.
I was more referring to any people who wish to have the opportunity of living and working abroad. I have a feeling this will largely become something that only the rich can enjoy.
 
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