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Yep, it has highlighted how inept our politicians are and how all along they had a convenient scapegoat.
grandjoeblue
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Great isn't it. Which EU country got the contract to make them in the end?
Ballymoney1
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Someone should tell the DUP.
Mr. White
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Yes. Wages at the bottom are going up. An unlimited supply of workers will keep pay low. A shortage of workers increases wages. Basic economics. People on minimum wage now have leverage to get a pay rise. If their current employer won't pay it, another employer will.
So, unless you're against better pay for the working class, then ending the uncontrolled, mostly one-way direction of free movement, is a benefit of Brexit.
grandjoeblue
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Wages are going up because prices are rising like mad. The poor are not better off, not a chance.
Mr. White
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That's not how it works...
If you ask your boss for a pay-rise because your cost of living is going up, you'll get laughed out of the room.
One vacancy, 100 applicants... the wage will be low. Five vacancies, one applicant... the wage will go up. This is simple stuff.
"A shortage of workers increases wages. Basic economics"
I'm not an economist but it seems like an example of bad economics, as opposed to say, collective bargaining increases wages.
If there is a sudden shortage of workers causing the system to jam up, something has gone wrong, or been mismanaged.
The working class will inevitably bear the brunt of the cost of increasing wages at such a sharp and sudden rate.
So if you are concerned for the working class, you should have voted for an EU withdrawal that was backed up with a plan as to how to leave.
The problem isn't really leaving, the problem is how you left.
grandjoeblue
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Great stuff the shops are empty and petrol stations can't get fuel but a few truckers are getting a higher wage due to massive shortages of labour.
What a massive benefit.
or there's a union and the position you are applying for has a fixed salary and it doesn't matter if 5 or 100 people apply.
The free market economics you talk about inevitably puts all the extra costs on the consumer. Meaning the people most affected will be the poorest.
Mr. White
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The shops aren't empty. There is some minor disruption. Show me a picture of an empty shop in the UK.
Petrol stations are mostly back to normal. It was a three-day panic, fueled by the media. Old news.
I never mentioned truckers. You mentioned truckers. And it's not just "a few" truckers. It is widespread wage increases for the masses.
It sounds like you are a business leader/owner? You are clearly more concerned about protecting corporate profits than wage increases?
Not that I’ve seen. It’s a disaster for thousands of people who want a life outside the U.K.
why have people just had the £20 a week taken from their UC then. And before you start, many of these people are working.
Mr. White
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That's not a competitive strategy that, is it? If you want the best employee, you have to pay the going wage. What you are suggesting is, that no matter how good you are, or how bad you are, you'll get paid the same regardless.
And the extra costs aren't the burden on the consumer, they are the burden of the business to remain competitive.
Mr. White
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That's not a Brexit issue, as I'm sure you are well aware. It was always only ever going to be a temporary top-up during the Covid crisis. That crisis is over, so top-up over.
Austerity over as well then...
You’re saying working class people have more money due to brexit, I’m saying they certainly don’t.
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