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Can't really see the 3 month visa scheme being successful for the drivers unless companies offer extremely high wages. I doubt most european truckers will leave their jobs for a 3 month contract.


Regarding the petrol hopefully it calms down in the next few days. Surely most of the panic buying has been done. A lot of people are probably working from home with a full tank of petrol.
 
Get on the plane you turkey pluckers. Don't you have Christmas in Warsaw?
If Boris and his chums had a shred of common sense, they'd have allowed the visa's to run until the end of January.

It's clearly not a policy, just an attempt to regain control of the news cycle until the crisis gets worse.

This is a government that is governed by a pathological need just to be popular no matter the cost. It has no real skill at governing in a way that spots possible problems and takes mitigating actions to avoid them as early as possible.
 

I see various headlines they are talking about getting army lorry drivers in to fill the gap. Most army lorry drivers are in fact part time reservists because the army doesn’t need them full time anymore.
And guess what they all do for a living in their civilian lives?
 

I see various headlines they are talking about getting army lorry drivers in to fill the gap. Most army lorry drivers are in fact part time reservists because the army doesn’t need them full time anymore.
And guess what they all do for a living in their civilian lives?
Hopefully conservative MP's
 
If Boris and his chums had a shred of common sense, they'd have allowed the visa's to run until the end of January.

It's clearly not a policy, just an attempt to regain control of the news cycle until the crisis gets worse.

This is a government that is governed by a pathological need just to be popular no matter the cost. It has no real skill at governing in a way that spots possible problems and takes mitigating actions to avoid them as early as possible.
Hopefully, it won't be too long before the gullible oafs who voted them in realise that.
 
I never claimed that it was new but merely that it underlines why people think Poles are only good to be (low cost) builders and truck drivers rather than doctors and architects.
It's interesting to keep in mind that the EU forced migrant workers to be paid the same wages & benefits as the workmen of the host country, even if they're posted abroad temporary (and even if they still pay social security payments to their homecountry).
Undercutting was not allowed. If it happened, the employer was fined + had to pay up the difference to his foreign workers.
Every country was also obliged to establish a labour inspection/directorate to oversee this & enforce the law.

So undercutting was basically illegal. It happened anyway with (mainly) truck drivers, because they don't have a fixed jobsite. Construction workers the same thing, they hop from construction site to construction site. The Polish/Romanian doctors (a lot of dental technicians) are certainly there, but you don't see them as prominently + they are not cheaper, they're paid the same...

Besides, standards in Poland have risen considerably since 2011, they're not the problem, they barely undercut the local laborforce anyway. Today, it's mainly Belarussians & Ukrainians with Czech or Polish work permits.
 
Would you be ok with us adopting the Euro instead of the £?
This is the most important point of the rejoin argument. Don't know if the Euro being adopted would be required but certainly a lot of pain and hardship for GB would be involved.
What we had is gone. I think what we'd get would be too much of a hard sell. Think we will probably need a few years of abject misery, a whole lot worse than current issues, before anyone, politician wise, has the guts to suggest rejoining.
 
Would you be ok with us adopting the Euro instead of the £?

I'm okay with it from a philosophical standpoint. I don't get angry over the idea of losing a currency.

Whether it would work from a technical point of view I don't know, I'm not remotely an economist.

What I do presume, though, is that implementation would be tied up for decades before it happened.
 
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