Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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People from accession 8 countries were far more likely to be significantly over-qualified for the job they were in than any other group. Why do you think that might be?
So your saying that people from Estonia etc who train to be lawyers are coming over to the uk to stack shelves for minimum wage?

What a great system
 
I'm in Estonia on Thursday meeting the prime minister, I'll ask her if you like?
Assuming you want a serious answer though, this is actually common for migrants wherever they come from, as this OECD data illustrates


The reasons are typically a lack of familiarity with the labour market, language challenges, no network to help them find the right jobs, difficulty in getting their qualifications recognised, and so on.

Logically, one might look at that and think "what a boost our economy would get if we actually put those people into jobs befitting their knowledge" rather than "look at that person, lets kick them out..."
 
Bore off Bruce. Just because you are married to an EU citizen doesn't mean everyone should get all misty eyed at the thought of immigration as you do.

How about trying to work out why 52% of this country don't think its a good idea without trying to blame all and sundry, or claiming people fell for lies etc
In fact it was 52% of of the 72% of the UK who voted leave, not 52% of the country.
 
Leave voters are twice as likely to hold racially prejudiced views as remain voters.

Total coincidence though I’m sure.

I do feel for the non racist leave voters because it must be bad to be always deemed a racist because the reasons you voted leave is that you didn't want foreigners in the country.

Joking aside, I think leave voters who are not racist need to live with the fact that some (a lot) of leave voters are racist in various guises, whether that is casual or full blown neo-nazi. This is a fact and the racist card is going to be brought up, as they say 'you have made your bed lie in it'
 
I do feel for the non racist leave voters because it must be bad to be always deemed a racist because the reasons you voted leave is that you didn't want foreigners in the country.

Joking aside, I think leave voters who are not racist need to live with the fact that some (a lot) of leave voters are racist in various guises, whether that is casual or full blown neo-nazi. This is a fact and the racist card is going to be brought up, as they say 'you have made your bed lie in it'
It betrays two things really. Firstly there is a lack of comprehension about the lump of labour fallacy. I mean in 1800 the population of the UK was around 10 million (according to the first census so we have to imagine that millions of Europeans didn't fill it in, but still...), and yet despite our current population being around 68 million, we still seem capable of finding jobs and prospering as a nation. Indeed, one would think the fact that the population of the aforementioned Nelson has fallen by over 25% in the last 100 years might give some folk a clue that a growing population isn't actually a bad thing (quite the contrary, as the fortunes of Nelson illustrate).

Secondly, there seems to be a willingness to impose restrictions on the movement of non-British people that they wouldn't dream of imposing on British people. I mean it would be regarded as ludicrous to prevent someone moving from Birmingham to Manchester because they're not qualified enough or the job they'll be doing isn't on an approved government list. I dare say we'd even find such impositions absurd if we applied it to movement between the four countries of the United Kingdom. And yet we're happy to impose that on foreign people because, erm, well, I'm not really sure why, but as I've illustrated dozens of times, the legal definition of racism does include treating people differently on the basis of their nationality as well as their religion, race, and so on.
 
Great, this endless supply of cheap foreign labour didn't do anyone any favours

Apart from getting products on to the shop shelves, keeping a lid on inflation, companies not going bust due to a staffing crisis, not being ripped off with mobile charges abroad, wasting billions upon billions of taxpayer money, visa free travel in the EU, not having to pay extra charges on goods sourced from the EU, generally not stunting our economy and as a knock on effect not breaking up the UK and potentially a civil war in NI. Plus loads of other things I missed...but apart from that. Nothing.

I will say least you are honest with your reasons being solely around immigration and not hiding under the pretence that it was to make the country stronger.
 
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