Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

Going by the name of Nissan.

Renault own Nissan.

 

[Joey66]

Could you define your interpretation of socialist/socialism, I am genuinely intrigued.

I too consider myself a socialist but always seem to be at odds with a lot of your posts.

That's your prerogative

 

[DualityNSNO]

Could you define your interpretation of socialist/socialism, I am genuinely intrigued.

I too consider myself a socialist but always seem to be at odds with a lot of your posts.

Your socialism:

Joey's socialism:

 

[wikofootball]

I see that the Eu would rather that our newspapers don't refer to any Muslim terrorists as being Muslim. The Eu like to control newspaper coverage and don't like a free press. I'd rather our imperfect press than the subservient stuff you see on the continent........

think you have missed the point like many other people who voted out I was referring. To the fascists who unfortunately are in government

 

[peteblue]

Ordinarily yes, but lets not kid ourselves that the government we have gives us freedom over our lives. It seems that we have replaced a big government in Brussels that granted us certain rights, with a big government in London that is happy to take away some of those rights. I'm not sure how my individual freedoms have been extended by leaving.



It's hard to know how to respond to this. The British army that fought the two wars you refer to was chock full of people from throughout the Commonwealth, and indeed other parts of Europe. Only the other week I visited the memorial at Lazarky in relation to the London based assassination of Heydrich by Czech fighters. So the suggestion that our various wars were solely fought by British nationals is nuts.

Likewise, the country as a whole is great because of the people who live here. Our NHS relies heavily on migrant labour. Our Premier League and other sporting competitions relies heavily on overseas talent. The City of London is chock full of talented individuals from overseas, just as our universities provide fertile environments for the brightest minds from around the world.

So foreign nationals have both fought for this country and played a significant role in building it. Even overlooking the crassness of such a stance, the fact that stats have been thrown at you what must be 100 times that migrants contribute more in taxes than they consume, so if less of them are here, we have less tax money to spend on public services. The problem isn't that we have migrants, it's that we have a byzantine, centralised system of distributing funds to local authorities, who have little flexibility in reacting to population changes. If several thousand Brits moved to a small'ish town, they'd have just the same problems. We also have equally byzantine planning regulations that have been strangling house building for generations.

Neither of those things are being touched on at all as it's much easier to blame the foreigners. Shame. Shame on them.

Indeed foreign nationals, members of Britains Empire, came to the aid of the Uk in wars and I have absolutely no problem in any of those countries having appropriate access to the UK. I don't remember many East Europeans coming to our aid though....

You regard such a stance as crass, why ?, because you don't agree with it ?

I have stated many times that I have no problem at all with controlled immigration, but the idea that any EU nationals, in whatever numbers, can just turn up is ridiculous.

We have planning regulations for a reason. It's the reason why the Uk does not resemble 3rd world countries.

I notice you missed out the bit where I referenced it to your own home. Why did you ignore that part ?

 

[magicjuan]

That's your prerogative

Of course it is, however, it was a polite, curious question based on ideologies and how your posts tend to be non socialist in content other than how your labour party is being ruined by Corbyn and momentum, I do paraphrase of course, for brevity, comrade.

 

[peteblue]

think you have missed the point like many other people who voted out I was referring. To the fascists who unfortunately are in government

Then please enlighten me.......

 

[Joey66]

Of course it is, however, it was a polite, curious question based on ideologies and how your posts tend to be non socialist in content other than how your labour party is being ruined by Corbyn and momentum, I do paraphrase of course, for brevity, comrade.

Power to the people comrade

 

[davek]

Indeed foreign nationals, members of Britains Empire, came to the aid of the Uk in wars and I have absolutely no problem in any of those countries having appropriate access to the UK. I don't remember many East Europeans coming to our aid though....

You regard such a stance as crass, why ?, because you don't agree with it ?

I have stated many times that I have no problem at all with controlled immigration, but the idea that any EU nationals, in whatever numbers, can just turn up is ridiculous.

We have planning regulations for a reason. It's the reason why the Uk does not resemble 3rd world countries.

I notice you missed out the bit where I referenced it to your own home. Why did you ignore that part ?

Polish airmen practically populated half the RAF! There was 16 squadrons of them.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I see that the Eu would rather that our newspapers don't refer to any Muslim terrorists as being Muslim. The Eu like to control newspaper coverage and don't like a free press. I'd rather our imperfect press than the subservient stuff you see on the continent........

Really odd how they don't allow it in Britain, to be fair, and really nowhere else.

Could it be that British media is just that overly cautious with everythng?

 

[Joey66]

Your socialism:

Joey's socialism:

The sign above was used by the German third Riech
5000 years before it was a flag of peace!

 

[magicjuan]

Power to the people comrade

so, little concept of socialism but an appreciation of sanskrit?

 

[DualityNSNO]

The sign above was used by the German third Riech
5000 years before it was a flag of peace!

I know, but I doubt that the hooked cross used for good fortune used in Sanskrit (Bulgaria has loads of VERY old churches/buildings coated with them, way before Nazi time) had those same words written around it. Absolutely useless bit of trivia nonetheless.

 

[peteblue]

Polish airmen practically populated half the RAF! There was 16 squadrons of them.

I think we only went to war in the first place because of Poland, so I'd just expect their support....


Oh, and I've just read there were less than 150 of them during the Battle of Britain......

 

[magicjuan]

The sign above was used by the German third Riech
5000 years before it was a flag of peace!

It is much older than that an originates, so far, in the Russian steppes