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Bruce Wayne said:
A bit of humility would do you no harm Joe. You've said quite clearly that you have no plans to ever make use of free movement ever again. Plenty of others do. An 'I'm alright Jack' attitude does no-one any favours.
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The government stance is no free movement which was a major item in the EU referendrum Bruce , not the main one sovereignty was my main objective ?
 
Blue 1 said:
I was getting paid that to do that job 16 years ago. That's the trouble.

And it was only OK money then. Better if you hammered the overtime. Not good money by any stretch of the imagination.

It's alright if you're living in bedsitland and haven't got anything to spend your money on other than drugs and techno, but you ain't getting far on it.
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But, again, being jobless - money's money, isn't it? You have to start somewhere. I'd love to have gotten paid £20/hr for that but it's not gonna happen, sadly. And sitting on your arse when jobs are available and complaining there aren't any jobs available because you don't want to get off your arse is something I find baffling (not you in this regard, obvs).

And it's decent money for us as we're used to not live with a lot, so to say. So out of the, hypothethical, £240-300 (if you do overtime, as you say), someone with a family back home can send half and still be good enough for food, rent and the likes, as he's not gonna live exactly centrally.
Woolverhampton_Blue said:
Having worked in a warehouse I'd say that is a load of rubbish. The warehouse was roughly 50/50 split of immigrants and natives, nearly all employed via an agency. The immigrant workforce had hard workers and slackers just like the natives. Some of the eastern European workers used to make monkey noises at the black workers, but I wont use that to say all eastern European immigrants are racist and all native Britains aren't. The only people ever caught stealing stock from lorries were immigrants too, but again I won't make lazy generalisations about that either.
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Not in Amazon Dunfermline, which I used as an example (granted, not really said it though, did I? /facepalm). Mostly Polish and a few Romanian/Bulgarian/African/refugees. Not that there weren't Brits, but it'd say it was far from 50/50 for us. Only the higher ups were Brits, directors and the a few of the management/leader staff.

Also this was the most Polish people I've seen in Scotland ever, as I think before working there I'd only seen about 10.

And they/we steal more, even if everyone does, it's the temptation isn't it? Most notorious for us was, I believe, a guy that had stashed £3k of hard drives and the likes in his locker, and he was British lol only guy caught stealing off lorries was also an immigrant, but Italian... damn Italians ffs!

Point of what I said was to point out people not wanting to do a job, which is what I saw with my own two eyes. Clearly, your experience was different, and the warehouse was also probably smaller (guessing here obiously). I've also heard/seen many people say stuff like "I don't want to work in a warehouse when I can claim benefits, eff this job" in a really serious manner/conversation, so there's that.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I find freedom rather important, and the ability to live and work where you want is surely one of the most valuable. If you're not hurting anyone else I fail to see what business it is of anyone else.
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Then you must be very happy that we will become free from Brussels.

In terms of hurt it depends what is meant. UK nationals may be 'hurt' due to lack of homes, increased hospital waiting times, or lack of school places due to an excess of non Uk nationals. I know that you believe that anyone should be able to go anywhere, but that ignores the fact that UK people fought for and built this country and they deserve to enjoy it. If you lived next to a family who wrecked their own home, while you maintained your own, you would not be happy if they decided to just move into your home with you, putting a strain on the household facilities and overcrowding the house. Countries are no different, you get what you build.......the UK is a generous country, which is why people want to come here, but generosity cannot be without limit.....the current EU migrant issue was not created because Merkel suddenly developed a conscience, but because Germany needed to increase it's population and workforce, but she made a complete mess of it and dropped all of the en route countries into the mire, a complete shambles created by Germany, again........
 
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