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Well, he could be sent to Pakistan to have a word with another ex cricketer…….
what The elected one , Thought you loved elections and democracy ?

Pete seriously I actually got a call from one of the very people I mentioned early that had worked with botham , I think you can probably imagine some of the content , I wish I could post some of the content . You know it’s a ridiculously stupid decision, you don’t have to tacitly support it because it’s been made by ‘your team ‘.
 
what The elected one , Thought you loved elections and democracy ?

Pete seriously I actually got a call from one of the very people I mentioned early that had worked with botham , I think you can probably imagine some of the content , I wish I could post some of the content . You know it’s a ridiculously stupid decision, you don’t have to tacitly support it because it’s been made by ‘your team ‘.

I can well imagine the difficulties working with someone like Botham. A person who was the absolute best at what he did and was ruthlessly focussed at winning. I’m sure he would draw people to attend events, but I don’t support it, I think it’s stupid and said so. He wouldn’t have liked some Foreign Office chappie being the opening bat for England….
 
I can well imagine the difficulties working with someone like Botham. A person who was the absolute best at what he did and was ruthlessly focussed at winning. I’m sure he would draw people to attend events, but I don’t support it, I think it’s stupid and said so. He wouldn’t have liked some Foreign Office chappie being the opening bat for England….
I can’t really post what I’ve been told but focus and a desire to win really weren’t the problems with him particularly the Former . As a huge fan of him as Cricketer I think he’s also wonderful company , particularly earlier in the evening , but like you correctly say the reason he gets many of his gigs is because of his ability to draw attention . Im
Not sure The bloke is cheap and I’d take some convincing he’d ever stay on message whatever the encouragement, it feels baffling frankly .
 
I can’t really post what I’ve been told but focus and a desire to win really weren’t the problems with him particularly the Former . As a huge fan of him as Cricketer I think he’s also wonderful company , particularly earlier in the evening , but like you correctly say the reason he gets many of his gigs is because of his ability to draw attention . Im
Not sure The bloke is cheap and I’d take some convincing he’d ever stay on message whatever the encouragement, it feels baffling frankly .

So basically he’s a drunk groper…that‘ll be fine in Australia…..
 
I can’t really post what I’ve been told but focus and a desire to win really weren’t the problems with him particularly the Former . As a huge fan of him as Cricketer I think he’s also wonderful company , particularly earlier in the evening , but like you correctly say the reason he gets many of his gigs is because of his ability to draw attention . Im
Not sure The bloke is cheap and I’d take some convincing he’d ever stay on message whatever the encouragement, it feels baffling frankly .
We have an after dinner speaker as prime minister so it's probably not "that" surprising.
 
I can’t really post what I’ve been told but focus and a desire to win really weren’t the problems with him particularly the Former . As a huge fan of him as Cricketer I think he’s also wonderful company , particularly earlier in the evening , but like you correctly say the reason he gets many of his gigs is because of his ability to draw attention . Im
Not sure The bloke is cheap and I’d take some convincing he’d ever stay on message whatever the encouragement, it feels baffling frankly .
He’s a nasty piece of work. Total dinosaur
 
150,000 HGV licence holders under the age of 40 that have left the industry over the past 10 years to pursue other careers hasn't helped

Covid preventing new drivers taking their tests since early last year also has had a bit of an impact on the numbers of drivers

The main reason there is a shortage is pay and conditions
Its also because a lot of European Drivers have left the UK due to leaving the EU, as the shortage wasn't as apparent in 2019 and 2020. I work for a big company that supply airlines with food, and we have lost a couple 100 drivers across our depots.
 
Its also because a lot of European Drivers have left the UK due to leaving the EU, as the shortage wasn't as apparent in 2019 and 2020. I work for a big company that supply airlines with food, and we have lost a couple 100 drivers across our depots.
The government ended the IR35 tax for lorry drivers from the EU in April, it basically let them set up as a self-employed business, letting them pay very low tax rates, letting them send money home ect, now they have to pay the same rates as UK drivers, so the job isn't as attractive
That must have done wonders for morale among the UK workforce working alongside them by the way, same job less pay?
A lot of EU drivers worked for agencies for this reason.
More a closing of a tax loophole than a Brexit decision.
The whole industry has gone towards agency workers, (see above) the job isn't attractive, long hours, (when you factor in waiting times) low pay, add in no new entrants as the tests have all been cancelled, anybody wanting to renew the licence is waiting months thanks to the DVLA shambles at the moment.
There are shortages of drivers on the continent as well, they expect a short fall of between 10% to 17%, and there is a shortage of young drivers for them as well same as the UK, average age in the UK is over 45.
It's not actually an attractive job if you're a family man, when you think about it.
My dad was a long distance driver, and you would barely see him for weeks on end, thankfully I didn't like him, so it wasn't a problem for me, but for most it would be a problem.
I know a few people who had a haulage transport Licence, and they have walked away from it because of the stringent laws that the ministry impose on them , said it just not worth the grief any more
cant see it getting better anytime soon.
 
I know a few people who had a haulage transport Licence, and they have walked away from it because of the stringent laws that the ministry impose on them , said it just not worth the grief any more
cant see it getting better anytime soon.
Spoken to fair few this is the overriding theme is the lack of respect and sneering everywhere in the UK, even through the full lock down of pandemic they were harassed and fined for stopping in wrong place to rest up can't have that rig near my houuuse, and because of Brexit, so many jobs to walk into, just a better work life elsewhere. Need to get themselves properly unionised, they are fair game for Tories to exploit in their face to the bottom. Looks like we are there. Welldone!
 
The government ended the IR35 tax for lorry drivers from the EU in April, it basically let them set up as a self-employed business, letting them pay very low tax rates, letting them send money home ect, now they have to pay the same rates as UK drivers, so the job isn't as attractive
That must have done wonders for morale among the UK workforce working alongside them by the way, same job less pay?
A lot of EU drivers worked for agencies for this reason.
More a closing of a tax loophole than a Brexit decision.
The whole industry has gone towards agency workers, (see above) the job isn't attractive, long hours, (when you factor in waiting times) low pay, add in no new entrants as the tests have all been cancelled, anybody wanting to renew the licence is waiting months thanks to the DVLA shambles at the moment.
There are shortages of drivers on the continent as well, they expect a short fall of between 10% to 17%, and there is a shortage of young drivers for them as well same as the UK, average age in the UK is over 45.
It's not actually an attractive job if you're a family man, when you think about it.
My dad was a long distance driver, and you would barely see him for weeks on end, thankfully I didn't like him, so it wasn't a problem for me, but for most it would be a problem.
I know a few people who had a haulage transport Licence, and they have walked away from it because of the stringent laws that the ministry impose on them , said it just not worth the grief any more
cant see it getting better anytime soon.

This. Mate of mine only does short haul driving so doesn’t have the ‘away from home‘ bit, but the pay is dreadful and has been kept down by cheap EU Labour. They do a hard job and have to have additional ‘training’ every couple of years. Couple this with the rise in lazy buggers who cba going to Tesco’s and have everything delivered at home and you have a perfect storm…..
 
This. Mate of mine only does short haul driving so doesn’t have the ‘away from home‘ bit, but the pay is dreadful and has been kept down by cheap EU Labour. They do a hard job and have to have additional ‘training’ every couple of years. Couple this with the rise in lazy buggers who cba going to Tesco’s and have everything delivered at home and you have a perfect storm…..
Judging by your own standards here? Anyway, corporation gets a pre-order, and one van delivers what, maybe 50 households efficiently, saving lots of released carbon and saves time. What's not to like?
 
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