Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

The classic “I’m alright jack” attitude that’s got this country into the state it’s in now.

“F You, Got Mine”

 

[Mr. White]

There is a shortage of workers at the moment... hospitality, retail, warehouse, drivers etc. Wages are no longer being depressed by an unlimited supply of EU workers.

So, wages for both entry level and skilled jobs will have to go up... Businesses will have to adapt and accept their margins will be squeezed.

EU membership was great for businesses to keep entry level wages depressed. So why does that get so much support on here? Low wages + expensive house prices... who does that benefit? Certainly not workers on a modest wage.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

So, wages for both entry level and skilled jobs will have to go up... Customer's will have to adapt and accept their wallets will be squeezed.

There a does of reality.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There is a shortage of workers at the moment... hospitality, retail, warehouse, drivers etc. Wages are no longer being depressed by an unlimited supply of EU workers.

So, wages for both entry level and skilled jobs will have to go up... Businesses will have to adapt and accept their margins will be squeezed.

EU membership was great for businesses to keep entry level wages depressed. So why does that get so much support on here? Low wages + expensive house prices... who does that benefit? Certainly not workers on a modest wage.

I think you'll find the reality is that people all over the world are struggling to hire people. American skills shortages are well documented, for instance, while this study from Canada shows that 350,000 Canadian women have left the workforce during pandemic to not return. So yes, EU citizens leaving the country is a problem, but so too is people leaving the workforce full-stop. After all, we can hardly blame the EU for the situation in Canada and the US, can we?

Certainly in the US, raising wages has done little to provide employers with the workers they need, and it seems increasingly clear that it's people leaving the workforce for good that is making global unemployment stats look as positive as they are. If it continues much longer I would imagine it will do investment in automation the world of good.

 

[peteblue]

I think you'll find the reality is that people all over the world are struggling to hire people. American skills shortages are well documented, for instance, while this study from Canada shows that 350,000 Canadian women have left the workforce during pandemic to not return. So yes, EU citizens leaving the country is a problem, but so too is people leaving the workforce full-stop. After all, we can hardly blame the EU for the situation in Canada and the US, can we?

Certainly in the US, raising wages has done little to provide employers with the workers they need, and it seems increasingly clear that it's people leaving the workforce for good that is making global unemployment stats look as positive as they are. If it continues much longer I would imagine it will do investment in automation the world of good.

Your last line says it all really....

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Poor puffins not getting their cake or eating it. And we only signed the fishing quotas 3 weeks ago...

Puffins under threat as European boats overfish in UK waters post Brexit, RSPB warns

Under quota deals which continued through Brexit, sand eels are being taken out of the sea at rates which impact the bird.

news.sky.com

Brexit and its fabled Cakeism.

Six months of Brexit: Business pays the price

Paperwork, delays and extra cost are harming relations with European customers in many sectors

www.bbc.com

 

[Bruce Wayne]

BBC News - Ros Atkins On..., Brexit Promises

Ros Atkins on whether pledges made by the Leave campaign have come to pass.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Le Pen gone down like a lead ballon, lots of hope in Brexit she and her party would make in roads and France would follow our xenophobia.

France elections: Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron suffer humiliating results in regional vote

Despite both contesting the 2017 presidential election, Mr Macron and Ms Le Pen have performed poorly in the regional polls.

news.sky.com

 

[tsubaki]

Le Pen gone down like a lead ballon, lots of hope in Brexit she and her party would make in roads and France would follow our xenophobia.

France elections: Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron suffer humiliating results in regional vote

Despite both contesting the 2017 presidential election, Mr Macron and Ms Le Pen have performed poorly in the regional polls.

news.sky.com

TBF the moment to celebrate is when the Presidential race comes down to someone that isn’t her vs someone who isn’t Macron

 

[tsubaki]

I think you'll find the reality is that people all over the world are struggling to hire people. American skills shortages are well documented, for instance, while this study from Canada shows that 350,000 Canadian women have left the workforce during pandemic to not return. So yes, EU citizens leaving the country is a problem, but so too is people leaving the workforce full-stop. After all, we can hardly blame the EU for the situation in Canada and the US, can we?

Certainly in the US, raising wages has done little to provide employers with the workers they need, and it seems increasingly clear that it's people leaving the workforce for good that is making global unemployment stats look as positive as they are. If it continues much longer I would imagine it will do investment in automation the world of good.

Should it be much of a surprise? I mean most of the West has spent the last 25 years gradually wrecking the idea of a long term career and promoting “flexible” job markets.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

@Old Blue 2

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Should it be much of a surprise? I mean most of the West has spent the last 25 years gradually wrecking the idea of a long term career and promoting “flexible” job markets.

It would be irresponsible imo to suggest to young people that they'll be in the same career for the entirety of their adult life.

 

[wandyr79]

@Old Blue 2

Did not know that he voted for Brexit......Still love the guy though.

 

[tsubaki]

It would be irresponsible imo to suggest to young people that they'll be in the same career for the entirety of their adult life.

Why? There were a lot of benefits to having a career in one field (or even with one company) - loyalty for a start, the quality of the training, increased expertise, stability (for the employees and management) etc.

Binning it off for in order to make most of the private sector face a succession of McJobs wasn’t in anyone’s interest, except the same short-termist cretins that have caused loads of damage elsewhere.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

TBF the moment to celebrate is when the Presidential race comes down to someone that isn’t her vs someone who isn’t Macron

For certain had Le Pen made gains our xenophobes would be all over it willy waving to all sundry today...