Current Affairs EU In or Out

[orchard]

That’s ok then?.......

What's okay mate? You failing to substantiate a claim? Yes mate, keep on trusting your intuition.

 

[Chewbacca]

“Presumably because leavers dgaf about anybody else?”

Anything to back that up ?......

The ones I know personally

 

[Haydn]

I think you’ll find the only ones complaining about the musician situation here were Remain voters......

The work issue doesn't just relate to musicians though. I posted previously about a friend of mine who is a successful architect, he has built up a design practice which supports high end retail brands. When they roll out a new concept across their stores, his team would design the package and lead the UK design and project delivery teams across Europe.

His UK qualifications and accreditation were accepted throughout the EU. That is no longer the case and he would now need to apply to each individual country (sometimes individual Cities, depending on local regulations) to be permitted to work there. Working to tight project deadlines that isn't practical, so he reckons the brands will be forced to appoint EU based design and project management practices. He's just opened a practice in Berlin and is currently recruiting local architects for work that would have previously been done in the UK.

It is odd that the Government promoted Brexit as a route to mighty prosperity for the UK. But the government as far as I'm aware don't make, sell, design, or export any products or services. Those that actually do, think the Brexit deal is a complete bag of crap designed by people who have not the slightest understanding of commerce.

My architect mate reckons he'll be fine in the long run, but the business will grow in Berlin not over here. He doesn't at any stage foresee equivalent compensating opportunities arising in Texas, Toronto, Tehran or Timbuktu.

 

[Jebus_lives]

The majority of leave voters in this thread are people completely unaffected by the changes.

Or completely unwilling to accept the consequences of the decision.

 

[Alan Whittle]

I see there is talk of the U.K. doing travel deals for musicians on a country by country basis because it would be impossible to get the EU to agree to one.....

27 applications where one would have done previously and yet you claim to despise bureaucrats.

 

[roydo]

27 applications where one would have done previously and yet you claim to despise bureaucrats.

Minimum of 27. Its an area of licencing that individual cities in the EU can set.

A bit like a pub over here can apply to the local council to extend their opening hours.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Or completely unwilling to accept the consequences of the decision.

It's all the EU's fault for not just allowing us to cherry-pick the bits of EU membership we'd like to keep and stuffing the rest.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

He he he, get the man in man who was instrumental in the deal that needs renegotiating after 6 weeks...

Lord Frost: Brexit negotiator joins cabinet to deal with EU

Downing Street says the UK's Brexit negotiator will help carve out a new relationship with the EU.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jebus_lives]

It's all the EU's fault for not just allowing us to cherry-pick the bits of EU membership we'd like to keep and stuffing the rest.

Really bizarre the series of letters from ministers complaining that we don't have any say or consultation over EU regulations.

Why would we?

 

[Jebus_lives]

He he he, get the man in man who was instrumental in the deal that needs renegotiating after 6 weeks...

Lord Frost: Brexit negotiator joins cabinet to deal with EU

Downing Street says the UK's Brexit negotiator will help carve out a new relationship with the EU.

www.bbc.co.uk

In his defence, it was political stubbornness that brought about this agreement as it exists. The constant 'let's have more discussion' when both negotiators were instructed as to red lines, was telling.

Not about negotiator skill, more about political will and ideology

 

[dead_soft]

I see there is talk of the U.K. doing travel deals for musicians on a country by country basis because it would be impossible to get the EU to agree to one.....

We’ve shown them we’ll win by doing exactly what being part of the EU would make unnecessary. Huzzah to British ingenuity

 

[peteblue]

We’ve shown them we’ll win by doing exactly what being part of the EU would make unnecessary. Huzzah to British ingenuity

You really are going to have to get over it. We are out of the EU, we left.....here’s a question mind, what’s the difference between a band doing a gig and a football team going over to play a match.......

 

[dead_soft]

You really are going to have to get over it. We are out of the EU, we left.....here’s a question mind, what’s the difference between a band doing a gig and a football team going over to play a match.......

It’s you who was complaining that the EU wouldn’t do a deal... and I don’t think it’s particularly democratic to tell people to ‘get over it’ rather than campaign for what they believe will create a better country.

Apart from the fact there are agreements between the main governing bodies of the sport to enable it?
I couldn’t just set up a European wide tournament and be able to provide visa waivers to everyone to ply their trade there.
I’m not really sure of your point and, once again, I’m not sure you are either

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In his defence, it was political stubbornness that brought about this agreement as it exists. The constant 'let's have more discussion' when both negotiators were instructed as to red lines, was telling.

Not about negotiator skill, more about political will and ideology

Aren't we supposed to be against these unelected bureaucrats though?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Aren't we supposed to be against these unelected bureaucrats though?

Only think it applies if they're in Brussels. In London it's a Boris strategic masterclass.