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Incidentally @JimmyJeffers here is a film based upon the work done by the researchers in the podcast you shared with me.



They've also written a book, which I managed to blag a copy of. Interesting stuff, although the film covers much of the material so may be a more time-efficient way of taking it in.

Finally got round to watching this. Not gonna lie, find it very difficult viewing. I have the utmost respect for people working in those services. Think I’d have a breakdown after a couple of weeks.
 
Finally got round to watching this. Not gonna lie, find it very difficult viewing. I have the utmost respect for people working in those services. Think I’d have a breakdown after a couple of weeks.

Aye, it (and the book) do underline the shitty country we're becoming. One comment in the book stood out for me. A border guard in Dover casually remarked that "we" send refugees back to France raw and France send them back to us cooked (on account of so many getting electrocuted trying to cross through the tunnel. It's hard to find the words tbh.
 
Aye, it (and the book) do underline the shitty country we're becoming. One comment in the book stood out for me. A border guard in Dover casually remarked that "we" send refugees back to France raw and France send them back to us cooked (on account of so many getting electrocuted trying to cross through the tunnel. It's hard to find the words tbh.
Movement of people is about as close to natural human behaviour as you can get. Our dehumanising and criminalising of this is sickening. The whole narrative needs to switch and I just can’t see it happening.
 
Didn’t the Tory manifesto specifically promise to not reduce food standards as part of any trade deal?

Oh yes it did.

Yet why 10 months later have they all voted to be able to reduce our food standards if we get bent over when negotiating a trade deal?

A rule maker not a rule taker though & all that lovely Sovereignty
 
Movement of people is about as close to natural human behaviour as you can get. Our dehumanising and criminalising of this is sickening. The whole narrative needs to switch and I just can’t see it happening.

The ridiculous thing is that the party that is doing so much to erode such a basic freedom is the same party who are apparently all for individual liberty.
 
Didn’t the Tory manifesto specifically promise to not reduce food standards as part of any trade deal?

Oh yes it did.

Yet why 10 months later have they all voted to be able to reduce our food standards if we get bent over when negotiating a trade deal?

A rule maker not a rule taker though & all that lovely Sovereignty

No, they have voted not to enshrine it in Law. Otherwise every single time the U.K. raised or amended a standard, the Law would have to be changed. This would also allow further amendments to be proposed to add or delete or even lower standards. There are more than enough laws and standards and guidelines without creating even more. Now, of course, if this particular government deliberately accepted lower standard food produce or even encouraged it then you would be correct to raise this. But they haven’t have they......
 
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