Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

Marx:

The Lumpenproletariat are '...disinclined to participate in revolutionary activities with their “rightful brethren,” the proletariat; and tend to act as the “bribed tools" of reactionary intrigue.'

If the cap fits....

Is this the way it works ? Everyone gets put into little boxes and only ‘good’ boxes get represented or looked after........

 

[peteblue]

Single market means freedom of movement.

I could have sworn that both Remain and Leave stated before the referendum that voting to leave meant leaving the single market, therefore no freedom of movement.....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I could have sworn that both Remain and Leave stated before the referendum that voting to leave meant leaving the single market, therefore no freedom of movement.....

The official Leave literature made no specific mention of leaving the single market.

 

[peteblue]

The official Leave literature made no specific mention of leaving the single market.

Yet the pamphlet that every house in the country received stated that Leaving meant leaving the single market, nice try though.....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Yet the pamphlet that every house in the country received stated that Leaving meant leaving the single market, nice try though.....

Nope, wrong again, as it didn’t. Go have a lie down, you’re having a mare today.

 

[peteblue]

Nope, wrong again, as it didn’t. Go have a lie down, you’re having a mare today.

page 8.....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

page 8.....

What about it?

 

[Methuselah]

Nope, wrong again, as it didn’t. Go have a lie down, you’re having a mare today.

The pamphlet stated: 'Remaining in the EU's single market makes it easier and cheaper for UK companies to sell their goods and services to other EU countries'.
I think it's fairly clear that the alternative is that 'leaving' means we wouldn't be in the single market.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

The pamphlet stated: 'Remaining in the EU's single market makes it easier and cheaper for UK companies to sell their goods and services to other EU countries'.
I think it's fairly clear that the alternative is that 'leaving' means we wouldn't be in the single market.

It also talks about what we would have to likely accept to retain access to the SM.

At no point does either the Leave or Remain booklet say that a vote for Leave would mean we’d definitively be leaving the SM.

So no, it isn’t clear.

 

[peteblue]

It also talks about what we would have to likely accept to retain access to the SM.

At no point does either the Leave or Remain booklet say that a vote for Leave would mean we’d definitively be leaving the SM.

So no, it isn’t clear.

So, honest answers please. When you originally read the pamphlet and when you voted, did you believe that voting leave meant that we would remain in the single market ?.......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I could have sworn that both Remain and Leave stated before the referendum that voting to leave meant leaving the single market, therefore no freedom of movement.....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

So, honest answers please. When you originally read the pamphlet and when you voted, did you believe that voting leave meant that we would remain in the single market ?.......

I thought no Govt would be stupid enough to leave the single market, so yes, I did, and that’s an honest answer.

 

[Methuselah]

It also talks about what we would have to likely accept to retain access to the SM.

At no point does either the Leave or Remain booklet say that a vote for Leave would mean we’d definitively be leaving the SM.

So no, it isn’t clear.

Why then, would they have the single market in as a remain benefit? Makes no sense if we were going to stay in anyway.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Why then, would they have the single market in as a remain benefit? Makes no sense if we were going to stay in anyway.

Because it is a benefit of EU membership ffs.

They spoke about what we’d have to do, to retain access to the SM if we weren’t members.

 

[Methuselah]

Because it is a benefit of EU membership ffs.

They spoke about what we’d have to do, to retain access to the SM if we weren’t members.

They hadn't a clue what we would have to do to retain access. Negotiations were in the future and in any event the EU moved the goalposts at regular intervals - and are still moving them.