Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Early days yet.
The UK economy is bigger then the smallest 18 countries combined.

The German economy is heavily reliant on car production, if that continues to decrease they will be in a recession.

The UK now has the lowest unemployment in decades compare that to some of the other EU countries Spain for example.

The U.K.’s GDP per capita puts it at 24th in the World.

Our unemployment stats have been fudged under the Tories and people on zero hours working 2 hours a week are classed as employed. Millions are reliant on working tax credits due to low pay and irregular hours.

The idea that the U.K. is going to offer some sort of template for the rest of the EU due to Brexit and it’s self imposed economic sanctions, is for the birds.
 
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That's just the starting gun.

Wait until the serfs find out they've been mugged.
I'm sure they'll be laying the blame for any fall out on the EU. No doubt with the tabloids in support, the masses will lap it up.

As you mention, people think it's done and dusted now. The only outcome that will not lead to an absolute cluster [Poor language removed] trade deal wise is if we go with full alignment with the EU on standards for goods and services. There's no way things can be picked apart without producing an absolute avalanche of red tape, putting firms out of business as a result. I got a bit obsessed reading up on all things brexit, but since the election I've pretty much given up. The whole thing contains countless paradoxes...
For example the Irish border. It'll become clear as day that Johnson has told the population a pack of lies regarding goods moving between GB and NI. This whole 'throw the documents in the bin' line is reckless. The EU are committed to protecting standards and will not allow goods to move via this route if correct checks are not being carried out. All GB serving businesses in NI are likely to struggle as they will have to account for not just individual items that are sold, but the constituent parts of them as well. This will make NI businesses uncompetitive in the long run. In the same respect, the EU will be wary of goods coming into the EU, via NI, via GB if GB standards undercut EU, giving GB firms an unfair advantage. That's before you even get into the breakdown of when you are trading goods and services in one product, or even more obstructive, the rules around country of origin.

Recession is unavoidable IMO. I've decided to give up reading about it though, as the whole thing is so frustrating. Even reading this thread has annoyed me.
 
And how does that work in actual practice? Are we getting the £350 million promised for the NHS on 1/2/20? And if not, why not?
Lets see how we prosper before making your forecast as by now just voting Brexit -we would have lost growth house prices tumbled, and millions of jobs lost.... an emergency budget needed - oh and a far left government when the rest of Europe is rejecting the left wing parties.....
the opposite has happened.....
 
Lets see how we prosper before making your forecast as by now just voting Brexit -we would have lost growth house prices tumbled, and millions of jobs lost.... an emergency budget needed - oh and a far left government when the rest of Europe is rejecting the left wing parties.....
the opposite has happened.....

Well we certainly have a far-right government.
 
Lets see how we prosper before making your forecast as by now just voting Brexit -we would have lost growth house prices tumbled, and millions of jobs lost.... an emergency budget needed - oh and a far left government when the rest of Europe is rejecting the left wing parties.....
the opposite has happened.....
What the feck are you on about? Answer my question about the £350 million and stop deflecting....it was promised wasn't it?
 
Equivalent to the cost of building...

And the campaign parties had no executive function to allocate any money in the Treasury. They could not promise any allocation of funds. They were a campaign party... Duh!!!
 
In the grand scheme of things, the fishing industry is barely a shell, let alone an egg.

So why are France demanding at least a 25 year access or no trade deal, why are the EU so upset about fishing rights if it is of little consequence to everyone ? Why is it such a political hot potato ?......
 
I'm still waiting for the recession that was predicted when people voted for leave back in 2016.

Still waiting for everyone to run out of medicine and food and all the banks leaving London.

Mps saying they respect the referendum when there actually remainers deliberately voting against any deal, there only purpose to stop brexit, that when people realised we are a democracy and we have respect the result. Hence the election results.

Not to mention Corbyn nearly 200billion to rationalise broadband energy etc.. Johnson kept his manifesto short, Corbyn went on a mad bender, as if anyone believed he would generate that sort of money through tax. Not to mention free uni Free bus passes etc.
 
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I'm sure they'll be laying the blame for any fall out on the EU. No doubt with the tabloids in support, the masses will lap it up.

As you mention, people think it's done and dusted now. The only outcome that will not lead to an absolute cluster [Poor language removed] trade deal wise is if we go with full alignment with the EU on standards for goods and services. There's no way things can be picked apart without producing an absolute avalanche of red tape, putting firms out of business as a result. I got a bit obsessed reading up on all things brexit, but since the election I've pretty much given up. The whole thing contains countless paradoxes...
For example the Irish border. It'll become clear as day that Johnson has told the population a pack of lies regarding goods moving between GB and NI. This whole 'throw the documents in the bin' line is reckless. The EU are committed to protecting standards and will not allow goods to move via this route if correct checks are not being carried out. All GB serving businesses in NI are likely to struggle as they will have to account for not just individual items that are sold, but the constituent parts of them as well. This will make NI businesses uncompetitive in the long run. In the same respect, the EU will be wary of goods coming into the EU, via NI, via GB if GB standards undercut EU, giving GB firms an unfair advantage. That's before you even get into the breakdown of when you are trading goods and services in one product, or even more obstructive, the rules around country of origin.

Recession is unavoidable IMO. I've decided to give up reading about it though, as the whole thing is so frustrating. Even reading this thread has annoyed me.
Problem is not many are going to see things like that. We’re only just at the beginning of this rabbit hole. Blame will be deflected and people will be led further. Dangerous times ahead.
 
So why are France demanding at least a 25 year access or no trade deal, why are the EU so upset about fishing rights if it is of little consequence to everyone ? Why is it such a political hot potato ?......
It's not just at sea - if you have a thriving fishing industry - on land it creates millions of jobs...... we have currently 6000....
 
Problem is not many are going to see things like that. We’re only just at the beginning of this rabbit hole. Blame will be deflected and people will be led further. Dangerous times ahead.
Hello Mr Doom Monger all your mates have been at me today......
I just wonder if other major contributors to the EU in a referendum how many would vote for the status quo........
 
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