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    Votes: 688 67.9%
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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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I am looking forward to the USA opening its borders with Mexico, since Obama was so keen for us to have free movement.

Also, I recall the USA went to war with the UK to break free from British rule. EU laws are supreme over all national legislatures and are created by unelected bureaucrats (Commissioners): we had a referendum instead of a war! It's a great feeling to know that our our laws in future will be made by people we elect and can hold to account

Despite the threats of the lame duck Obama that GB would be "at the back of the queue" for trade deals, the US politicians have seen sense and are eager for a trade agreement, along with a dozen other major economies giving GB a potential market many times larger than the the corrupt, bureaucratic, failing EU.

Don't be a Remoaner - the future is bright, embrace it!
Well said mate.
 
So would you let your Supreme Court be overruled by another court.

I don't know of a court that has that power besides the court of public opinion.

The Supreme Court is another huge can of worms that could have irreparable effects on the nation if Trump is elected. I highly doubt the average voter is even taking that into account.
 
I am looking forward to the USA opening its borders with Mexico, since Obama was so keen for us to have free movement.

Also, I recall the USA went to war with the UK to break free from British rule. EU laws are supreme over all national legislatures and are created by unelected bureaucrats (Commissioners): we had a referendum instead of a war! It's a great feeling to know that our our laws in future will be made by people we elect and can hold to account

Despite the threats of the lame duck Obama that GB would be "at the back of the queue" for trade deals, the US politicians have seen sense and are eager for a trade agreement, along with a dozen other major economies giving GB a potential market many times larger than the the corrupt, bureaucratic, failing EU.

Don't be a Remoaner - the future is bright, embrace it!

We should have much more open borders in the states. This great nation was built on immigration. My great grandmother and great grandfather immigrated from Finland.

A good friend of mine is an immigration attorney in San Francisco. Her clients are big players in the Silicon Valley (Google is a primary client). She has to jump through a million hoops to get these highly educated engineers and the like to get them ovet here to earn a high wage and be productive members of society.

These people are not taking jobs from Americans...we simply do not produce enough qualified candidates to fulfill the demand right now.

Regarding the war with you...taxation without representation...you still coulda been a contender if you ran things more fairly all those years ago.
 
We should have much more open borders in the states. This great nation was built on immigration. My great grandmother and great grandfather immigrated from Finland.

A good friend of mine is an immigration attorney in San Francisco. Her clients are big players in the Silicon Valley (Google is a primary client). She has to jump through a million hoops to get these highly educated engineers and the like to get them ovet here to earn a high wage and be productive members of society.

These people are not taking jobs from Americans...we simply do not produce enough qualified candidates to fulfill the demand right now.

Regarding the war with you...taxation without representation...you still coulda been a contender if you ran things more fairly all those years ago.

I agree about US immigration and it's benefits. There is of course a slight difference between the UK and the USA, we have approx total land area of 94,251 sq mi whereas the USA has 3,794,083 sq mi and only 5x the population....
 
Bangladesh has about 100,000,000 more people than the UK in about 40K less sq mi.

Area is not the issue Pete.

Indeed, it seems to be the change that's the issue, as most of the people upset by immigration aren't living in areas of high population density, but they have experienced a relatively rapid change in the demographics of their town. There seems to be a connection between those most annoyed by immigration and areas with a relatively high growth in migrants coming to their town. Not saying that's right btw, just explaining what appears to be the situation.
 
Bangladesh has about 100,000,000 more people than the UK in about 40K less sq mi.

Area is not the issue Pete.

Isn't it?

Perhaps not - for a second - Infrastructure is (for the time being)

Do you really believe the landed gentry would allow their land to be developed to accommodate all the 30m or so immigrants that'd put our population (per sq. km ) on a par with Bangladesh?

Not unless they got their sweatshops for absolute parity...
 
Golf courses take up approximately twice as much land as housing in the UK, the idea that there is no land left in the uk is wide of the mark

Are golf courses not (generally) on privately owned land? Are lots of them either in the countryside, or next to open spaces/greenbelt?

If you owned one, I very much doubt you'd be pleased to have a CPO slapped on it in order to accommodate/house the general population, nevermind an immigrant population.

There is neither the space, nor the infrastructure, nor (Dare I say it? Well I'm going to anyway, because it's the case) the will to accommodate the current rate of immigration.

And we ought to build for our own first, last & foremost.
 
Bangladesh has about 100,000,000 more people than the UK in about 40K less sq mi.

Area is not the issue Pete.

Of course area is an issue. If the UK and the USA swapped populations it would be an issue. So Bangladesh has far more people than the Uk in a similar area, have you spotted any difference in living standards as a result.......
 
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