Current Affairs EU In or Out

[hktoffee]

Yup.

Delay.

 

[Kurt.]

Even the Brexiteer element here must surely be asking themselves why this Government is so reluctant to actually have a vote on the legislation it apparently wants to bring.

You’d think wouldn’t you but I wouldn’t hold your breath

 

[davek]

I see the Robinso/Lennon/Yaxley weapon and his mates were out today trying to cause murder.

 

[Xizor]

What I don't get is that if the UK is as subservient to the EU as the Brexiters make out ("I don't think we live in a free, independent country" says Mark Francois) then why doesn't Tusk just overrule Parliament to pass the Deal they've negotiated with the government?

Surely the fact that Parliament has the authority and clout to stymie the Brexit process by failing to accept a deal that the EU want to happen is a massive strike against one of the main cited reasons to leave?

 

[roydo]

What I don't get is that if the UK is as subservient to the EU as the Brexiters make out ("I don't think we live in a free, independent country" says Mark Francois) then why doesn't Tusk just overrule Parliament to pass the Deal they've negotiated with the government?

Surely the fact that Parliament has the authority and clout to stymie the Brexit process by failing to accept a deal that the EU want to happen is a massive strike against one of the main cited reasons to leave?

Because quite simply, we are not. And like pretty every other populist soundbite about how awful the EU is, its hoovered up by folk who like their prejudices proved correct.

 

[Khalekan]

What I don't get is that if the UK is as subservient to the EU as the Brexiters make out ("I don't think we live in a free, independent country" says Mark Francois) then why don't they just overrule Parliament to pass the Deal they've negotiated with the government?

Surely the fact that Parliament has the authority and clout to stymie the Brexit process by failing to accept a deal that the EU want to happen is a massive strike against one of the main cited reasons to leave?

It would if Brexiters were honest with themselves.

But they aren’t.........they have to be victims.

When you believe the lies you tell yourself reason goes out the window.

We will take back control of our judicial system.....when all the time our judicial system was powerful enough to stop the prorogation fiasco and showed itself to very independent.

We will take back control of our law making.....then crying foul when the people charged with making those laws show our parliament has absolute control of our law making.

And my own particular favourite....

We will take back control of our borders......extremely hard to do when our only “border” is in a whole nother country and the people who live along it ain’t going to let you “take back control” of it.

Then there the other other lies they willingly choose to believe.......40 trade deals signed the day after Brexit....no more furreners taking our jobs...sunlit uplands etcetera, etcetera.

 

[Paris]

Delay.

For what? Unless we have a General Election that Corbyn ran away from initially then the EU will not agree.

Personally I want a second chance but my selfish preference should have no bearing on the matter.

 

[Kurt.]

For what? Unless we have a General Election that Corbyn ran away from initially then the EU will not agree.

Personally I want a second chance but my selfish preference should have no bearing on the matter.

You know full well nobody has run away from an election.

 

[Davidoff]

For as long as there is a chance of Article 50 being revoked - no matter how faint - the EU will carry on granting extensions

 

[Kurt.]

Nothing is anywhere near being settled at the moment.... the premature gloating by some in here the other night may yet come back to bite them on the arse

 

[Kurt.]

I’ll give johnson credit though.... he’s consistent


Is that 7 and 0 now ?

 

[davek]

"Just gerron wiv it"

 

[Paris]

You know full well nobody has run away from an election.

Unfortunately they voted against the opportunity just a few weeks ago.

 

[tsubaki]

Because quite simply, we are not. And like pretty every other populist soundbite about how awful the EU is, its hoovered up by folk who like their prejudices proved correct.

Of course the mad thing is that this deal (as Mays did) actually does put us in a position of subservience with regards to the EU.

 

[tsubaki]

Unfortunately they voted against the opportunity just a few weeks ago.

Not this again. Corbyn said a general election could be held once an extension was arranged. If he signs that letter and gets one, he could have an election.