The advisory.... non binding .... referendum vote I think he means.
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davek
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I think these talks are still blame game BS, tbh.
The details that need tyng down on a complex plan like those Johnson's team have put forward for customs (Schrodinger's Backstop, as Peston calls it) are never getting sorted in weeks, possibly months. The EU need a legally reinforced deal, and getting that is never happening this week. This is a pantomime.
It's all gone quite on the leakage front, but I reckon we'll see some negative news being trailed fairly shortly.
The details that need tyng down on a complex plan like those Johnson's team have put forward for customs (Schrodinger's Backstop, as Peston calls it) are never getting sorted in weeks, possibly months. The EU need a legally reinforced deal, and getting that is never happening this week. This is a pantomime.
It's all gone quite on the leakage front, but I reckon we'll see some negative news being trailed fairly shortly.
orly
Please check with me for Blammo criteria
If starting from blank - yes
If reheating previous deal with adjustments - maybe not
Important to bear in mind that this "deal" is basically meaningless, as it is actually the gateway to FEP negotiations (the "real" deal)
Can we stop acting like this is a major breakthrough. The EU have only agreed to listen to new ideas.
In negotiation terms, it's basically a 'we will listen because we don't want to be blamed'.
The talk of intensifying negotiations, in terms of Brexit, is commiting to pedal incredibly fast on a bike with no wheels and expecting to end up in a different location.
In negotiation terms, it's basically a 'we will listen because we don't want to be blamed'.
The talk of intensifying negotiations, in terms of Brexit, is commiting to pedal incredibly fast on a bike with no wheels and expecting to end up in a different location.
Hey there,
If anybody needs conclusive proof how damaging this self inflicted Brexit nonsense is to the UK then please read the breakdown of this report. After I'd finished I was genuinely shaking out of concern.
If anybody needs conclusive proof how damaging this self inflicted Brexit nonsense is to the UK then please read the breakdown of this report. After I'd finished I was genuinely shaking out of concern.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
roydo
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Well thats the nub isnt it? The Government isnt. Cummings and his mates are.
But hey, take back control or sommet.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
They'll say anything, do anything, break any principle (if they had any to start with) for their own personal and political interests.
roydo
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It aint me you need to convince mate. I just cannot fathom how folk all excited about leaving dont realise that the nugget pulling Johnsons strings is, or was, the leader of Leave UK, or whatever it was called.
He cares not a jot for nothing other than delivering for his paymasters, Banks, etc.
Charlie Sweet
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Joey when you say "honour the vote or politics is dead in the water" - what do you mean?
Cos if you're saying that Leave voters will get upset because their misguided votes in a non-binding referendum will have been called time on - after almost 4 years of proving there is no such thing as a good Brexit - then I dont see the downside?
davek
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I'm not sure mate. As I understand it, this will be different (more labyrinthine) assessment of who owes what, where, when and how long for than the May proposals that attempted it.
The NI border issue (as well as a real live issue) was also always a road block for Brexit. It'll see
Johnson through the end of October and beyond, at least...and in all likelihood these talks will bear no fruit anyway.
As Barnier said a few hours ago: the latest British customs proposals for the Irish border remained an “untested” risk that the bloc could not countenance.
The country will be divided.....if we get a good deal and thrive as we will because look who if they had a good economy join the EU now as its main benefactor.....the state it's in .....ask Italy Greece , and France, .......
Charlie Sweet
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Define what is a good deal? We are not going to get anything better from the EU than the UK already has are we?
So when you say good - you mean less bad than it could be?
Charlie Sweet
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Isnt it interesting to note the complete absence of any talk about warnings to UK companies or consumers to "take it easy" and not rush too quickly to take advantage of all the opportunities presented by Brexit! Not a bean. I wonder why!
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