Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

I was alluding to the balance of economic power, not the politics of leaving.

But yes, all deals will be conducted sensibly.

So was I mate, we are not a Jamaica, unless they are the 5th largest world economy, with nuclear capability, with a permanent seat on the UN security council, who are the USA's greatest military and economic ally, who run a commonwealth of many nations and politically are second to none around the world......other than that it's basically the same.......

 

[peteblue]

Cameron was an idiot for giving this referendum to the country

I regard him as a patriot......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If you want an analogy, then it's more accurate to say how would the USA trade with California if they were to leave, let's at least use similar economies, and of course the answer would be, sensibly.........

If you want a more current example, maybe the Canada-EU deal? It's being held up at the moment because Bulgaria (amongst others) are taking umbridge that Canada is fine to let in some EU nationals, but not others. I suspect the way that deal unfolds will have a big bearing on how our own negotiations might go.

 

[peteblue]

Afraid not. Those 'trade deals' aren't so much trade deals as signing off on individual things, such as the Chinese will build our nuclear power station or HS2 line. It isn't anything to do with tariffs or the like and is more in common with Prince wotsit securing dodgy deals with the Saudis for fighter jets.

Those dodgy deals with the Saudis pay for our National Health Service......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Japanese company bought a hi tech uk firm out to double the job numbers in the UK today because the lower £ against the dollar hope it's signs of us loosing the EU shackles the firm buying stated Brexit played its part, Gideon seems to have got this wrong!

I'm confused to be honest. You have the founder of ARM saying it's a crying shame that the company has been sold because it deprives us (Britain) of such sovereignty over national champions, yet you're saying it's a bonnie thing because foreigners can now snap up our assets on the cheap due to the weak pound? Aside from the strength, or otherwise, of the pound, there's nothing at all in this deal that the EU had any involvement in.

 

[roydo]

So was I mate, we are not a Jamaica, unless they are the 5th largest world economy, with nuclear capability, with a permanent seat on the UN security council, who are the USA's greatest military and economic ally, who run a commonwealth of many nations and politically are second to none around the world......other than that it's basically the same.......

To be fair, our bananas are pretty terrible.

If indeed we have any at all.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Those dodgy deals with the Saudis pay for our National Health Service......

I'm not commenting on the ethics of them, merely that they aren't trade deals in the sense that we'll have to negotiate them with Europe and other countries in the world. It's more prominent British figures greasing palms and opening doors so that companies can do business.

 

[peteblue]

I'm not commenting on the ethics of them, merely that they aren't trade deals in the sense that we'll have to negotiate them with Europe and other countries in the world. It's more prominent British figures greasing palms and opening doors so that companies can do business.

The planes we sell are made by the UK, Germany,Spain and Italy........

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The planes we sell are made by the UK, Germany,Spain and Italy........

I've no doubt, but it still isn't a trade deal.

 

[joey_macmo]

What point do you wish to make......yes, we all agree that comparing the % of a smaller number with the % of a bigger number gives a certain impression, but so what. The absolute numbers show that the EU sells more to us than we do to it...so what point do you wish to make........

It's an incredibly simple point that is very easy to understand and is obviously best explained using %ages

You either know the point already or haven't got it after it's been made many times already.

 

[joey_macmo]

Is that it then, you beat him, lets use percentages, you won the Internet.... Meanwhile the decision has been made, we will exit the EU, and Germany will do a deal with the UK.........because we are their second largest most important country when it comes to trade surplus, just a couple of Billion less than the USA and way ahead of any other country....or would you like that in percentages......

Strange & incredibly defensive response. What is it about this thread and topic that makes people on both sides so unable to say "do you know what you're right there"

 

[wikofootball]

I regard him as a patriot......

No one is a patriot who's gambles the country's future prosperity. And governance on the back of his own. Career and his party

 

[roydo]

Strange & incredibly defensive response. What is it about this thread and topic that makes people on both sides so unable to say "do you know what you're right there"

Er, some do.

I so want to post a sarcastic response about this, but actually, I agree. Germany will want sell our sales reps cars, so will make sure they can do.

I was alluding to the balance of economic power, not the politics of leaving.

But yes, all deals will be conducted sensibly.

 

[Joey66]

I'm confused to be honest. You have the founder of ARM saying it's a crying shame that the company has been sold because it deprives us (Britain) of such sovereignty over national champions, yet you're saying it's a bonnie thing because foreigners can now snap up our assets on the cheap due to the weak pound? Aside from the strength, or otherwise, of the pound, there's nothing at all in this deal that the EU had any involvement in.

Expanding the unit in the UK 1000 more UK jobs shock horror the UK sell an asset if it creates more jobs the founders have every right to cash in its Hi tech too, unlike China France making nuclear power stations and railways worth billions from scratch!
British she Gas is owned by a French firm Centrica?
So what's new?
Jobs are jobs!

 

[peteblue]

Expanding the unit in the UK 1000 more UK jobs shock horror the UK sell an asset if it creates more jobs the founders have every right to cash in its Hi tech too, unlike China France making nuclear power stations and railways worth billions from scratch!
British she Gas is owned by a French firm Centrica?
So what's new?
Jobs are jobs!

Sorry mate, Centrica is British.......