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[Carl O'Ancelotti]

That's that then, the DUP says NO. Yet again.

Dodds warns mooted Brexit compromise 'cannot work'

'The DUP has poured cold water over a reported Brexit compromise to end the deadlock over the backstop. Deputy leader Nigel Dodds warned the mooted plan - reportedly being discussed by EU and UK officials in Brussels - "cannot work". Reports from the Belgian capital claimed British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sought to revive a proposal first put forward by former prime minister Theresa May for a customs partnership between the UK and the EU. The scheme, intended to avoid the need for customs controls on the island of Ireland, would see Northern Ireland remain politically in a customs union with the EU but it would be administered by the UK.

However Mr Dodds - whose party's votes will almost certainly be needed to get a Brexit deal through parliament - told the Italian La Repubblica newspaper that Northern Ireland "must stay in a full UK customs union, full stop". "It cannot work because Northern Ireland has to remain fully part of the UK customs union," he said. He added: "There is a lot of stuff coming from Brussels, pushed by the Europeans in the last hours, but one thing is sure: Northern Ireland must remain fully part of the UK customs union. And Boris Johnson knows it very well."

British officials have so far remained tight-lipped in the face of the reports.'

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/1012/1083004-dodds-brexit-deal/

 

[Tubey]

That's that then, the DUP says NO. Yet again.

Dodds warns mooted Brexit compromise 'cannot work'

'The DUP has poured cold water over a reported Brexit compromise to end the deadlock over the backstop. Deputy leader Nigel Dodds warned the mooted plan - reportedly being discussed by EU and UK officials in Brussels - "cannot work". Reports from the Belgian capital claimed British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sought to revive a proposal first put forward by former prime minister Theresa May for a customs partnership between the UK and the EU. The scheme, intended to avoid the need for customs controls on the island of Ireland, would see Northern Ireland remain politically in a customs union with the EU but it would be administered by the UK.

However Mr Dodds - whose party's votes will almost certainly be needed to get a Brexit deal through parliament - told the Italian La Repubblica newspaper that Northern Ireland "must stay in a full UK customs union, full stop". "It cannot work because Northern Ireland has to remain fully part of the UK customs union," he said. He added: "There is a lot of stuff coming from Brussels, pushed by the Europeans in the last hours, but one thing is sure: Northern Ireland must remain fully part of the UK customs union. And Boris Johnson knows it very well."

British officials have so far remained tight-lipped in the face of the reports.'

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/1012/1083004-dodds-brexit-deal/

If Johnson has any sense, he puts his deal to a second referendum now with remain as the alternate option. Because otherwise he's now toast as PM, unless the DUP sell themselves out.

 

[Jimmy James]

I‘ve been awestruck by nothing apart from the people such a Starmer, Hammond and Grieve who are doing everything they can to reverse the vote.....

I think you might have that a bit wrong mate. Maybe you mean 'gobsmacked'?

Unless you've had a massive and somewhat unlikely change or heart.

 

[peteblue]

If Johnson has any sense, he puts his deal to a second referendum now with remain as the alternate option. Because otherwise he's now toast as PM, unless the DUP sell themselves out.

That’ll never happen. I could accept No deal v New deal, but would never accept Remain (the losing vote) being on a ballot paper.....

 

[peteblue]

The law states that if a no deal can't be agreed then an extension must be asked for.

and if an extension is not agreed the law states we leave on Oct 31st......

 

[Tubey]

That’ll never happen. I could accept No deal v New deal, but would never accept Remain (the losing vote) being on a ballot paper.....

By that logic, we may as well have one election ever.

Democracy doesn't work that way. The question has changed - the initial argument for leave has failed to produce a result.

 

[Yakinblue]

and if an extension is not agreed the law states we leave on Oct 31st......

Great...I'm bulletproof...I fear for the likes of your children who will have to buy goods in the future....

 

[Tubey]

and if an extension is not agreed the law states we leave on Oct 31st......

Nope, the Benn Act states that any extension has to be put to parliament, no matter what the duration.

 

[peteblue]

By that logic, we may as well have one election ever.

Democracy doesn't work that way. The question has changed - the initial argument for leave has failed to produce a result.

No mate. All your Remainers want to do is change the vote to Leave. You’ve tried everything from ‘they didn’t understand the question’ to ‘they are all racists’, now it’s let’s have a vote between a deal and remain. But as Joey keeps saying, you lost, and no amount of gerrymandering will put that particular option back on the table. We need to do what we voted for, Leave the EU, otherwise there will be chaos in this country and no vote will ever again be accepted......

 

[peteblue]

Great...I'm bulletproof...I fear for the likes of your children who will have to buy goods in the future....

I do not fear for my children, and I do not fear for my granddaughter either, they will, like the rest of the country do very well outside of the EU......

 

[peteblue]

Nope, the Benn Act states that any extension has to be put to parliament, no matter what the duration.

if the EU do not agree to an extension then that’s it, we are out.......

 

[Yakinblue]

I do not fear for my children, and I do not fear for my granddaughter either, they will, like the rest of the country do very well outside of the EU......

Pray tell me what will UK manufacture that will be able to compete with global economy?

 

[Charlie Sweet]

I do not fear for my children, and I do not fear for my granddaughter either, they will, like the rest of the country do very well outside of the EU......

Please give one ounce of proof or reason why the UK will do very well outside the UK?

 

[Tubey]

No mate. All your Remainers want to do is change the vote to Leave. You’ve tried everything from ‘they didn’t understand the question’ to ‘they are all racists’, now it’s let’s have a vote between a deal and remain. But as Joey keeps saying, you lost, and no amount of gerrymandering will put that particular option back on the table. We need to do what we voted for, Leave the EU, otherwise there will be chaos in this country and no vote will ever again be accepted......

Bring it on. If your lot can't accept the sovereignty of parliament, you deserve all the kettling you get.

Because that's the issue here - you're moaning about democracy not going your way and simultaneously moaning about others not respecting democracy.

You're a hypocrite.

 

[peteblue]

Please give one ounce of proof or reason why the UK will do very well outside the UK?

please give one once of proof as to why we will not......