Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

Your bums on fire

How do you know I suffer with Diverticulitis?

 

[peteblue]

Speaking of democracy...



I see "respect the will of the people" only applies when it goes your way, hm?

That’s what happens though doesn’t it, look at Scotland.....and I have no problem in the U.K. having another referendum on the EU 10 years after we have left and if the will of the people decide to go back in then we go back in.....

 

[Joey66]

if Scotland leave it’ll definitely be a hard border, and a big ditch and fences and a wall......

If they do leave the Barnett funding formula would go out of the window ..... I doubt there that stupid to lose that massive grant plus -
Scotland's biggest trading partner continues to be rest of UK. The Scottish Government's annual trade statistics ('Export Statistics Scotland') show that in 2016 Scotland exported more than £45 billion in goods and services to England, Wales and Northern Ireland – while exports to the EU total £12.7 billion.

 

[Joey66]

I see a Bercow has been negotiating with Brussels now. I wonder what authority he has granted himself to do so.....

31st good riddance to him ...... I would wish they would open the alleged bullying cases against him, only Labour stopped that - in return to frustrate Brexit......

 

[Joey66]

yup, this is why I think it boils down to blind nationalism.

No its a polictical union why should our government answer to the EU?

 

[roydo]

No its a polictical union why should our government answer to the EU?

In what way does it mate? Bearing in mind that we have been a key member of it for decades.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

This is like the opening scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Joe has discovered Google.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In what way does it mate? Bearing in mind that we have been a key member of it for decades.

Whatever Joe says, you can safely assume the opposite is actually the case.

 

[Joey66]

In what way does it mate? Bearing in mind that we have been a key member of it for decades.

We have to apply to their four freedoms that also restricts us from being independent to get other trade deals worldwide -
A trade deal YES a polictical deal NO.......
all that for a £ 8 billion deficit on membership......
that's why I feel the people voted out......

 

[roydo]

We have to apply to their four freedoms that also restricts us from being independent to get other trade deals worldwide -
A trade deal YES a polictical deal NO.......
all that for a £ 8 billion deficit on membership......
that's why I feel the people voted out......

We agreed to that as a member of the customs union and the free market mate.

And if you havnt yet grasped the cost of being a member versus the economic benefits of being a member, me explaining it, again, is rather pointless.

 

[peteblue]

The sad thing is that Joe and those like him seem not to have even grasped what they were voting for in the first referendum, as 'ever closer union' was a founding principle of the Treaty of Rome, as were the four fundamental freedoms. That he continues to be mistaken after 60 years is not a good advert for his grasp of the subject. That they seem to confuse the ever closer union of 'the people of Europe' whereby decisions are made as local to those people as possible, with the ever closer union of the governments of Europe merely exacerbates his evident confusion.

Those four fundamental freedoms were not established in the Treaty of Rome, just three of them. Freedom of Movement came with the Maastricht Treaty in 92.....And you accuse others of not understanding.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In what way does it mate? Bearing in mind that we have been a key member of it for decades.

See what I mean? Utterly clueless.

 

[Ruairi77]

No its a polictical union why should our government answer to the EU?

For a start, you make up a very big part of the EU so you're answering to yourselves.

Unless you can leave responsibly, don't leave as it causes serious issues for you and your neighbours.

 

[Ruairi77]

Those four fundamental freedoms were not established in the Treaty of Rome, just three of them. Freedom of Movement came with the Maastricht Treaty in 92.....And you accuse others of not understanding.....

you should have voted on that. Oh wait, you have no written constitution.

 

[roydo]

Those four fundamental freedoms were not established in the Treaty of Rome, just three of them. Freedom of Movement came with the Maastricht Treaty in 92.....And you accuse others of not understanding.....

Why dodnt you like freedom of movement Pete? I am assuming you do to be fair.