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[OnlyBlueWillDo]

You are just repeating slogans. Does Boris' time as PM so far give you confidence that he would win a general election?

Imagine if you voted Labour on the premise they were going to honour the referendum and back the UK leaving.

There are thousands of brexit Labour voters who are seething with what Labour has become, they'll vote Tory or Brexit party next time.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So the bluff has been called, Corbyn never really wanted to have an election. Knows hed lose

It's simple really:.

The current proposal in the Commons is aiming to prevent a No Deal Brexit. Once that is definitely off the table, then Labour will have a general election.

They want an election, but don't want to leave with No Deal.

In other news 2+2=4

 

[Jebus_lives]

Labour have alienated masses of their voters by turning into a remain party, Labour are going to get hammered in this next GE.

They aren't a Remain Party though are they? You're confusing them with the Liberals.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Imagine if you voted Labour on the premise they were going to honour the referendum and back the UK leaving.

There are thousands of brexit Labour voters who are seething with what Labour has become, they'll vote Tory or Brexit party next time.

Why aren't they honouring the referendum?

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

...never going to happen mate. Farage isn't interested in crumbs off Johnson's table. He;s an ego and wants to hold the balance of power post election...that's the chance he'll take...he's even said in the past we should Remain if it's any sort of deal with the EU. He just isn't falling in with Bojo and Co. How do people not realise that?

What are you talking about, Farge wants no deal, Boris is very happy to leave with no deal.

You honestly think Farge will not support the Tories if needed lol

 

[tsubaki]

He will win a majority comfortably imo.

Labour need leave seats to win a GE. They've played to their London remain gallery who were already right behind them. I think Corbyn will get hammered.

Of course you do; you thought he'd get hammered in 2017 and were wrong.

This idea that UKIP, or now the Brexit Party, are going to thrash Labour across the North is one that has been floating around for ages even though it has failed at every general election and by election. The threat to Labour in the North was always because of what the circle around Blair had done to the party, making the Labour vote stay home because it thought it was taken for granted and ignored (it was) and allowing the Tories (who are the second party in almost all of those seats) in.

When Corbyn became leader, more of that stay at home vote came out and the situation improved somewhat. What didn't happen is that UKIP won any of those seats - nor could it, because it has very little local organization (unlike the Tories with their clubs and whatnot) and the candidates were nonentities. The BP has even less local organization than UKIP did (because, again, it is not actually a political party with members) which is why Farage is demanding to borrow the local Tory organization in order to try and win those seats. If he doesn't get that, they will have no MPs again.

You meanwhile will still be here, telling us that Labour will get hammered in the North / leave seats.

 

[tsubaki]

Imagine if you voted Labour on the premise they were going to honour the referendum and back the UK leaving.

There are thousands of brexit Labour voters who are seething with what Labour has become, they'll vote Tory or Brexit party next time.

Doesn't it worry you that you have no independent political thoughts of your own?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Of course you do; you thought he'd get hammered in 2017 and were wrong.

This idea that UKIP, or now the Brexit Party, are going to thrash Labour across the North is one that has been floating around for ages even though it has failed at every general election and by election. The threat to Labour in the North was always because of what the circle around Blair had done to the party, making the Labour vote stay home because it thought it was taken for granted and ignored (it was) and allowing the Tories (who are the second party in almost all of those seats) in.

When Corbyn became leader, more of that stay at home vote came out and the situation improved somewhat. What didn't happen is that UKIP won any of those seats - nor could it, because it has very little local organization (unlike the Tories with their clubs and whatnot) and the candidates were nonentities. The BP has even less local organization than UKIP did (because, again, it is not actually a political party with members) which is why Farage is demanding to borrow the local Tory organization in order to try and win those seats. If he doesn't get that, they will have no MPs again.

The Brexit party aren't going to win any seats. Johnson is going to mop up their vote by moving onto their territory.

There is no way labour win this election. They won't win any election until they have a huge turnaround in Scotland.

 

[random]

Wouldn't surprise me if there were still one or two twists in this saga still to come, can see the bounds of convention, law and tradition being stretched to the limit if not being outright broken

 

[davek]

Britain Elects
@britainelects

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On "a public vote on Brexit":

Support: 46% Oppose: 41%

I think an election will only see that mood grow, tbh.

The ground has shifted on this now.

Personally I think the 1st referendum should be respected and a deal done, but there you have it. The mood has shifted amongst a lot of people and they fear a no deal scenario more than staying in the EU...as well they should.

Johnson, Cummings, Farage et al are on the wrong side of history here.

 

[Jebus_lives]

First off answer the question. It’s a simple binomial - which option, prima facie, sounds racist to you?

Remainers want, amongst other things,
freedom of movement from other EU nation states, is that correct? Can you tell me the racial demographic of these nation states (collectively)?

Can you tell me the racial demographic of the world?

If it’s agreed that the uk&ni need migration limits due to population density, can you explain to me why unlimited migration from the Eu is not the one which puts more stipulations on non-Caucasians?

Clearly I’m dumb, enlighten and educate me.

But first, answer the question.

Ta.

Clearly you have not made the logical leap that remainers may also favour more liberal application of free movement from all parts of the world. It doesn't have to be an either/or scenario.

 

[davek]

What are you talking about, Farge wants no deal, Boris is very happy to leave with no deal.

You honestly think Farge will not support the Tories if needed lol

No mate. That's not how both parties will be approaching the electorate.

 

[Jebus_lives]

What are you talking about, Farge wants no deal, Boris is very happy to leave with no deal.

You honestly think Farge will not support the Tories if needed lol

What gives you that impression? Everything he has said indicates he wants a deal and is only using No Deal as a threat.

 

[tsubaki]

The Brexit party aren't going to win any seats. Johnson is going to mop up their vote by moving onto their territory.

"their territory", where they have 0 seats.

If Boris turns the Tories into the Brexit Party, with all the claims of treason and collaboration we have seen these past few weeks, the country will punish him for it. For a start, it is self-evidently hypocritical given that most peoples understanding of treason and collaboration are met by what certain MPs have been doing with the current US Government.

 

[Hawhaw]

It's all just projection with you, love. Remainers are racist. Remainers are bullies. Remainers use the politics of hate. Meanwhile you're off in your little utopian bubble of tolerance, reading your Enoch.

You really are a treasure, getting wound up so. Please make sure your ensuing meltdown is available for public consumption.

It’s not all remainers, anyway it’s not their fault they’ve been lied to and conned, out of mainly fear.


When we leave on no deal, apart from it being the happiest day of my life.
The best thing will be the proof that project fear was all lies, and we can all unify behind Brexit together, to make Britain great again.