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Well I think so. Not gonna lie, utterly bewildered.
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Well I think so. Not gonna lie, utterly bewildered.
Right, so if this Bill is passed then No Deal is taken off the table for now, and we will have a General Election on 15 Oct. But if the Conservatives win the General Election, and then form a majority government with say the Brexit Party (which I think is a real possibility), then what is stopping them reversing this Bill and us leaving with No Deal on Oct 31?
tsubaki
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The reason that deal (May's) didn't pass was because the ERG blocked it three times.
If they stop blocking it then there is a decent possibility that it might pass - the Tory rump will probably back it, as will the 21 ex-Tories, as will the 20-30 around Kinnock; that works out as about 330-340 if noone rebels. The added advantage for them is that it is nothing to do with Boris, so he can say it was forced on him but he accepted it as the only way to get Brexit through (and that May failed to do it) and then call a GE on that basis.
NilSatisOptimum
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It allows Mays deal with a bit of rework back on the table.
I think Jess Phillips should get off the fence and tell us what she really thinks...
Ft52 defo got a ring to it
Ok I'll try my best, although I haven't been fully following.
The amendment doesn't really alter the application for extension, but it puts stipulations on MPs during the extension:
- to debate the Withdrawal Agreement Bill
- vote on whether to adopt the WAB
So, it doesn't really affect the bill as it's just prescribing actions in the event of an extension...while I'm not in favour per se, at least it gives something to discuss and debate in the event of an extension, as the Benn proposal just asks for an extension but not a pathway to resolution.
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I mean they've basically said it with their actions thus far but don't have the guts to admit it.
OnlyBlueWillDo
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Put it to the people, let them vote knowing Boris will take a no deal if that is what is left, see if they back him, if Labour think they hold the moral high ground then they should have nothing to fear, the public will back them with their votes and put them in No.10.
Voting to stop a no deal brexit is absolutely disgusting, the Labour party are going to get one hell of a shock when the votes are counted for the GE.
The Tories and Brexit party will pass what they want through parliament such will be their majority.
NilSatisOptimum
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There have bee assurances at 22 committee by Johnson, the same discipline will be applied to ERG that the rebels receivedif Mays deal comes back tweaked, and they go all Farage about it again.
Tobias Ellwood on 5live.
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Kin ell, I'm listening to that Jess Phillips in that debate tonight. She is as daft as a 'kin brush. Shocking to me how someone like her can become an MP. Freely admitting she has no idea about how the chamber she spends all her time in works and gets paid £80K p.a. for it. Utterly thick.
OnlyBlueWillDo
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Absolute shambles it is, if this is what can happen when 3/4 of the MP's voted not to leave, and can frustrate the public's will to leave the EU.
There is no democracy in this country.
Johnson has been scheming to get May's WA passed either through smoke and mirrors or through default is the aim. In this scenario it's perfect, he can claim it was forced upon him if it goes badly or take all the plaudits if it goes well.
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