Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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well if you put that to the people, I presume the remainers would vote it down in the hope of remaining and the leavers would vote it down because it's not 'leavy' enough.

is that the flaw or is there something more obvious I'm missing (also not being facetious)

Remainers would vote to remain anyway no matter what would be put on the table.

But Imagine you were leaning towards the leave side
 
Grow up lad. you spout crap on here and get slapped down constantly. Two nights ago I asked for a source/link for some mad statement about Johnson's progress in negotiations that you'd made. Guess what? No source/link.
I come from Marsh Lane, a place you will have no idea about. The worst insult is to call a person a bluff, you are a bluff........

I know Marsh Lane. Used to play for the Brunnie...
 
Remainers would vote to remain anyway no matter what would be put on the table.

But Imagine you were leaning towards the leave side

Perhaps not. I have stated tons of times that the reason I voted remain wasnt down to any great affection for the EU, but the simple fact that I didnt have a clue what leaving would mean, and I didnt believe the utter crap Rees Mogg and Farage spouted.

So far, I am correct.

But, if a negotiated deal that protected trade, and didnt muck up the Irish border, for example, was offered as THE Leave future on offer, I may well vote Leave. Cos I would know what I was voting for.
 
Remainers would vote to remain anyway no matter what would be put on the table.

But Imagine you were leaning towards the leave side
Actually no. I voted remain but have accepted leave won. I would rather vote for a deal rather than no deal do at least we have a starting point to move forward from. A no deal scenario is self defeating.
 
As I've pointed out (even just yesterday!) I'd have been happy with a 'Soft Brexit', using the terms we understood in the immediate aftermath of the referendum - SM/CU membership for the economic protection and personal freedoms.

I think what should have happened is, shortly after A50 being enacted, May had gotten together with Corbyn as LotO and the heads of the devolved governments to work out a deal that would a) get through the Commons (which would need Labour & Tory votes) and b) would be acceptable to all parts of the UK, including the Remain-leaning Scots and Northern Irish (I am aware that Stormont is currently closed which would be an issue). If she had done this, I have no doubt we'd be out now with something that nobody really wanted, but honoured the result, didn't strip rights from anyone and didn't cause problems to businesses large or small.

Instead, at every initial turn, May pandered to the hardest Leavers in her party, for whom compromise has always been a dirty word, and every time she moved to a Harder form of Brexit they made noises that it wasn't enough. May's main aim was to hold the splintered party together and in power, rather than achieve the best result of Brexit, and her WA is the ugly result of that.
 
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