Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Damage limitation and outflanking Sinn Fein for the left vote has been his aim, not pushing for unification.

You probably won’t know this but since the Brexit vote Varadkar has come under considerable pressure from Northern Nationalists for not doing enough to work towards unification amid all this mess. You have called him wrong Pete.


That may we’ll be his political drive, but I still suspect I may be right......
 
We can decide our own trade deals
We can decide our own foreign policy
We can determine our own laws....

So what are the 3 main benefits of being in the EU....

Is this really your position on the benefits of brexit?

On #2 - we already can and do decide our foreign policy
On #3 - we already can and do determine our own laws

3 benefits of being in the EU?

Freedom to live and work anywhere in the EU
Being part of the largest single market in the world, which already has 40 trade deals with 70 countries, and rising.
Joint ownership and sharing of real time criminal databases which greatly aids in fight against crime, terrorism, illegal immigration etc.
 
Whatever the people of Ireland, north and south want, is fine with me, and probably with the rest of the U.K., however I don’t want anyone setting off bombs or murdering people, but nor do I wish to see a people dragged into a future conflict because of the political ambitions of Varadkar or a bunch or terrorists.....


You may not “wish” to see it Peter but let’s be quite frank about it, you couldn’t give a toss if and when it happens.

Just so long as as you have “Brexit”....you don’t care about any collateral damage that occurs outside your own myopic little bubble.

And it wasn’t Mr. Varadkar nor “a bunch of terrorists” nor the European Union which have brought this unwelcome possible future scenario into focus.

(Mr. Varadkar wasn’t even in charge in Ireland....26 of 32...when the Brexit madness was unleashed)

It is you.

And people like you.

It is Brexit which has threatened the peace and stability, not to mention the economic prospects, of a remote outpost of this here disUnited Kingdom.

The same with Scotland....an overwhelming majority of Brexiters in England are more than happy to cut Scotland and N.Ireland if it means getting Brexit in England.

The best thing would be for the English to do the decent thing and finish of what we should have done a century ago....apply “Brexit” to the whole of Ireland as well as Scotland and save those people from the type of crooks, incompetents, traitors, liars and all round charlatans whom have to all intents and purposes staged a right wing coup in Westminster this week.

You voted for Brexit....you have become more and more detached from reality in your attempts to justify in on these pages for several years now....now you would desperately try and deflect the blame for any consequences of your mad obsession on to other people.

And you have the gall to try and argue with a fellow living in Co. Armagh, right on the fault line that your political fanaticism is threatening to rip asunder.

Hang your head in shame, Peter.
 
you haven’t listened to a word I have said Pete.

He is as far from violence as can be, the political enemy of physical force Republicanism.

He is correctly articulating the damage that Brexit will deliver to us all while insisting that Westminster abides by their own international treaty in The Good Friday Agreement.

That is a statesman Pete.


Mr. Varadkar has indeed played a blinder, Army.

He is a stateman of enormous stature compared to the bunch of cretins we have in Johnson’s rag, tag and bobtail Cabinet.

He needs to do more now though.

He needs to make it official Dublin government policy that in the event of a No Deal Brexit then re-unification is the only way out for the whole of Ireland.

If that upsets the DUP then be it so.

So I am delighted ro see that he is now talking openly about how an increasing number of people in NI are questioning the desirability of the Union in the event of a Johnsonesque Kamikaze No Deal Brexit (he didn’t describe it thus, that is just my rhetoric:) ) in a speech he gave at the McGill summer school in Glenties, Co. Donegal yesterday.

He will need cross party support in this....Mr. Martin needs to take Fianna Fail with him.

I get the feeling things are moving behind the scenes......Sinn Fein are very quiet, not even rising to the bait over the “Troubles pensions” controversy in Westminster this week.

(and the less they say the better)

Meanwhile over in the States wee Mrs. Pelosi has re-iterated that if there is any attempt by the British to re-write or otherwise undermine the GFA then Johnson can forget about any trade deal with the USA......Trump can promise him all the deals he likes, but Congress has to ratify them otherwise they won’t happen.

And Irish America in general is not going to sit by and see the English treat Ireland with contempt again.

There is an organisation set up by various Irish American lobby groups called the American Brexit Committee and it contains very senior Senators and Congressmen from both American political parties and they will be bringing very considerable weight to bear on any hopes Johnson has of finding his “sunlit uplands” over there in DC.

Bullies beware....this is not 1922 and Perfidious Albion will not be able to strongarm Hibernia into accepting soloutions which is not in its own best interest.
 
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