Current Affairs EU In or Out

[bizzaro]

When do you move to Ireland again.......

I've told you twice already.

Your comment about Slovakia has shown what your disgraceful views actually are.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Yes, history teaches us that sizeable miniorities ace happy to live their lives subject to the whims of tiny majorities.

That way lies division and chaos.

Sorry, Khal. Not so. You are distorting things.

What you REALLY have is a majority versus a minority. 52 to 42 (rounded, I believe). A majority is a majority is a majority... That's facts, mate, not distortion...

 

[DualityNSNO]

Esk, you and I know that no one, no one, really knows what will happen one way or the other. We will get indicators and we will have beliefs based on experience. I do not believe for one minute that we will 'fall off the edge of a cliff' and UK businesses do not believe that either otherwise they would now be gone. There will undoubtedly be issues along the way, just as there would have been had we remained. We now have the opportunity to get back out into the big world and do deals. The EU will do a trade deal with us because Germany needs it, we do not need to trade with the minnows such as Slovakia etc, just the big players, and they will insist on doing a deal because they sell more to us than we do to them. The cards we hold are quite good and our opportunities even better. The only thing that will stop us succeeding is ourselves........

Just like HSBC and several other companies have gone, including Honda, who, IIRC, were mostly British made for the whle of Europe, but they'll now be manufactured in Germany I think. They're moving out at any rate.

Also, I'm in dire straits money wise so my mum sent me 100 euro earlier today, which is roughly £80, to my surprise.

Stable though, going strong.

 

[peteblue]

Let's see at the next two quarter results, there's no pleasure in saying this but it is inevitable and backed by precedent in terms of the effect of economic shocks. The difficulty we have is that the recovery framework is not what is was which suggests recovery will take much longer.

So we'll have a steep, deep recession and a very gradual recovery thereafter.

And you and I know that Brexit will be blamed for everything, even if a downturn was coming, even if a company was already on it's uppers, in fact Italy is already using Brexit as an excuse to break EU law and refinance its banks......let's wait and see.....

 

[edge]

Dont know why everyone is going off on one , we will end up with some half arsed more in than out deal at the end of all this.
Are political leaders havnt the bravery or brains to see it through.
lots of disappointed people on, both sides I am predicting.

 

[peteblue]

Just like HSBC and several other companies have gone, including Honda, who, IIRC, were mostly British made for the whle of Europe, but they'll now be manufactured in Germany I think. They're moving out at any rate.

Also, I'm in dire straits money wise so my mum sent me 100 euro earlier today, which is roughly £80, to my surprise.

Stable though, going strong.

HSBC has announced it is staying in the UK.......

 

[The Esk]

And you and I know that Brexit will be blamed for everything, even if a downturn was coming, even if a company was already on it's uppers, in fact Italy is already using Brexit as an excuse to break EU law and refinance its banks......let's wait and see.....

I thought the Conservatives were claiming some form of economic miracle prior to the referendum? Clearly not...

 

[peteblue]

Dont know why everyone is going off on one , we will end up with some half arsed more in than out deal at the end of all this.
Are political leaders havnt the bravery or brains to see it through.
lots of disappointed people on, both sides I am predicting.

There will undoubtedly be some form of fudge. We will leave, but deals will have some form of halfway house in respect of immigration, trade etc etc......

 

[bizzaro]

@The Esk I think Osbornes comments today and likely approach may have the effect of waking people up in the commission.


Germany will be worried about a loss of their relative competiveness to the UK with that (what with the currency drop in addition).

Real shot across the bow.

I'm predicting Merkel takes the dagger out and sees off certain people in the commission and similar. I think there will be no accomodations that Germany will want with the UK, with Jean Claude Juncker in position.

 

[peteblue]

I thought the Conservatives were claiming some form of economic miracle prior to the referendum? Clearly not...

Again, you and I know that things change, which is why Osborne is loving it at the moment, everything is the fault of Brexit......

 

[Old Blue 2]

Well, if you are supporting democracy, all I was doing was setting out how it works . Hope it helps to know. Rees Mogg does not know, if his views are as posted.
oh flip, I forgot we don't need experts any more. Let's have kids with pen knives to do heart surgery....

Do you think we don't now how democracy works?

So you're an expert, eh? Great, tell us more.

And tell us how you've used your history degree. Fascinating that you're up there with Rees Mogg.

 

[bizzaro]

Dont know why everyone is going off on one , we will end up with some half arsed more in than out deal at the end of all this.
Are political leaders havnt the bravery or brains to see it through.
lots of disappointed people on, both sides I am predicting.

I think it was Peteblue trying to claim 'its all panning out nicely tbh'.

Just over a week since last week.

Absolute joker mate.

 

[The Esk]

Again, you and I know that things change, which is why Osborne is loving it at the moment, everything is the fault of Brexit......

Assume for a moment the referendum had voted remain, you'd have been disappointed I accept that, but what would have been your economic forecast? Pretty rosy I would guess.

Compare and contrast.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Whilst admiring your positivity there's no basis for your optimism Pete. The economy is going to fall of the edge of a cliff. The leave vote is at least as shocking as the fall of Lehman Brothers and 8 years later we are still suffering the consequences. We talked of the lost decade after 2008, that's now been extended much, much further - UK PLC is in crisis, no management and the macro picture collapsing around us.

One of the worst posts I've ever read on here. Why?

Supposition, all of it. Nothing whatsoever founded in fact.

Stick to the legal tenet, eh, Esk: 'He who asserts must prove'. Apply that tenet to everything you say above, and everything you say... fails the test!

 

[ToffeeTim]

Britain's economy has too much residual strength. Good grief I found myself agreeing with Boris Johnson's facebook post on the brexit today. Far far too much hysteria.

A European mega crash is coming. The eurozone is a basket case. Better as far away from it as possible.