Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

Except that it isn't a solution. As quoted, it is a way of trying to keep trade flowing between Ireland and the EU via Britain in the event of no deal. It does not solve the border issue nor the complexities of maintaining the all Ireland economy which exists at the moment.

It would be be remiss of the EU to bury its head in the sand and pretend that a no deal will not happen; it it is taking the necessary preparatory steps. As are the Irish government, who have recruited hundreds of extra Revenue staff to deal with the customs chaos that will exist if there is no deal. All that seems to happening in the UK is a load of squabbling about which next PM can deliver the hardest Brexit.

The notion that the EU did not propose this arrangement earlier because they didn't want May's deal (which they spent 2 years negotiating) to get through parliament is frankly laughable.

You continue to miss the point. This is not about who to point a finger at or blame, it’s about developing a solution.....

 

[roydo]

I think you are confusing technology with politics. You and I know the process that you have to go through to get a working system. The issue is what are the boundaries and requirements of the system. In political negotiations they will have been set very high and wide by the EU and lower by the U.K. to fit their negotiation position. However now that the EU needs a system for no deal, they will set them a lot lower than originally aspired to by the U.K. I totally agree that the Tories have screwed this up, but let’s not forget who advises them within the civil service. I have done lots of work in the past with the government and I would have argued from the very beginning to get the parameters and requirements detailed and agreed very quickly to determine the final development design to give the engineers appropriate design and development time. That time however has been wasted by both the U.K. and the EU to the detriment of the European people. It is the fault of the Tories, and it is the fault of the EU. They have both screwed up......

Taking back control sounds less appealing by the second.

 

[peteblue]

Taking back control sounds less appealing by the second.

Not really. Both sides were playing politics. I have a lot of faith in the U.K. , less so in the U.K. government and almost none in the EU bureaucracy.........

 

[hallamblue]

I am seriously worried about the country. If 1 of the no-deal Tories gets in we will be like the USA inside 2 years. Private healthcare for the people who can afford it and massive disparity between the haves and the have-nots. I will be financially better off but at what price?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Aside from the huge lead the EU has over the 'rest of the world', it's also telling that #2 and #3 in the list are both nations for which we have no trade deal, which surely skewers the bonkers Brexiter line that we need trade deals to 'trade with the world'?

 

[COYBL25]

 

[Eggs]

....big vote coming up on whether a no deal Brexit can be pushed through without debate by the new PM. Result in the next few minutes.

Edit; a win for the Government. A no deal Brexit is nearer.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Oh, look. Having dismissed technological solutions as UK government and some on here have been proposing for the last three years, all of a sudden and faced with a potential PM who has to deliver Brexit in October, the EU are having a rethink....

“Brussels is preparing to deploy technology to keep trade flowing between Ireland and the EU via Britain under a No Deal Brexit.
EU officials will use 'IT systems' so goods can continue across the sea from Ireland through the UK and on into France, according to a leaked document.
The paper, which will be presented to EU leaders next week, ramps up No Deal warnings amid EU fears that a Brexiteer will win the keys to No 10.
It says the fix to keep open the so-called 'land bridge' between the Republic and Northern Ireland can be 'implemented swiftly in the event of No Deal'.”

A pity they didn’t offer this solution to May to help her get the first deal through...its amazing what can be achieved when one side actually believes you will just walk away.....

Are they going to put a GPS system in my Microwave etc. So they can track that it has come from the ROI and then ended up in my home?

 

[Wizard]

....big vote coming up on whether a no deal Brexit can be pushed through without debate by the new PM. Result in the next few minutes.

Edit; a win for the Government. A no deal Brexit is nearer.

Ugh. It’s going to be a horrible few months and could just get worse and worse

 

[The binman chronicles]

Ugh. It’s going to be a horrible few months and could just get worse and worse

Especially for @Eggs, his pint of Guinness is going to cost 5x as much after a no deal Brexit.

 

[spectateur]

....big vote coming up on whether a no deal Brexit can be pushed through without debate by the new PM. Result in the next few minutes.

Edit; a win for the Government. A no deal Brexit is nearer.

But that's not democratic, it's dictatorship!

 

[peteblue]

The problem is that the EU figure only represents 44% of our exports, which the chart doesn’t really show.......

 

[peteblue]

....big vote coming up on whether a no deal Brexit can be pushed through without debate by the new PM. Result in the next few minutes.

Edit; a win for the Government. A no deal Brexit is nearer.

Good. It’s about time this disgraceful and biased Speaker and MP’s wishing to sideline our elected government were given two fingers.....

 

[Joey66]

A problem for the EU they export more to us.....that's why there will be a deal.......