Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Old Blue 2 said:
Re-run the Referendum vote? Why so?

The Conservative Party leadership election is completely divorced from the Referendum. Yes, the Referendum result resulted in Cameron resigning and triggering a new Conservative leader and new PM, but the internal affairs of one party have no bearing on the vote by the whole country on a completely different issue...
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Because one side of the establishment didn't get the result they wanted and sections of the working class didn't do as they were told?

'You can have democracy as long as we agree with it', seems to be the mantra emanating from Westminster and the media.
 
Yes but of you cannot make out what happened. Last week the British. Public being conned onto a false vote which is a disaster. Imo for the country
 
wikofootball said:
Yes but of you cannot make out what happened. Last week the British. Public being conned onto a false vote which is a disaster. Imo for the country
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It would appear the 'conning' took place on both sides, which in my view leavens things out.

As a member of the British Public, I was not conned. I reasoned everything through and arrived at my own decision. Which IMO is what the other 17 million-odd did (this view is as equally valid as your view that the result is a disaster).
 
Old Blue 2 said:
It would appear the 'conning' took place on both sides, which in my view leavens things out.

As a member of the British Public, I was not conned. I reasoned everything through and arrived at my own decision. Which IMO is what the other 17 million-odd did (this view is as equally valid as your view that the result is a disaster).
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Yeah the lies were definitely completely even. Honest.
 
Tubey said:
Yeah the lies were definitely completely even. Honest.
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Direct quote from the man who bankrolled the Leave campaign http://www.theguardian.com/politics...lans-new-party-to-replace-ukip-without-farage

“It was taking an American-style media approach,” said Banks. “What they said early on was ‘facts don’t work’ and that’s it. The remain campaign featured fact, fact, fact, fact, fact. It just doesn’t work. You have got to connect with people emotionally. It’s the Trump success.”

Oh this quote was interesting too

“The Conservatives are now trying to rewrite the campaign that immigration wasn’t important, but boy was immigration important,” Banks said. “The first thing we did was poll everybody and we found that if immigration wasn’t the issue, the issue was schools or education, proxies for immigration. It was the number one issue by a country mile.”
 
bobbydigital said:
Direct quote from the man who bankrolled the Leave campaign http://www.theguardian.com/politics...lans-new-party-to-replace-ukip-without-farage

“It was taking an American-style media approach,” said Banks. “What they said early on was ‘facts don’t work’ and that’s it. The remain campaign featured fact, fact, fact, fact, fact. It just doesn’t work. You have got to connect with people emotionally. It’s the Trump success.”
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Like Osborne and his big threat of what actually became an imaginary budget...

Do me a favour. Don't try to insult people's intelligences with this tripe: "...The remain campaign featured fact, fact, fact, fact, fact..."
 
Old Blue 2 said:
Like Osborne and his big threat of what actually became an imaginary budget...

Do me a favour. Don't try to insult people's intelligences with this tripe: "...The remain campaign featured fact, fact, fact, fact, fact..."
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That's what the man who bankrolled the Leave campaign said mate. Not me.
 
bobbydigital said:
That's what the man who bankrolled the Leave campaign said mate. Not me.
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So we have yet to see if all those 'facts' come to fruition. That the economy will tank; that there will be massive job losses; that we will be better remaining in the EU with the likes of Juncker et al. Oh look, a pig with wings...
 
Brennan said:
Oh. Well. He must be clueless as well then...
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Basically came out and said we told them a bunch of lies and based it on the Trump campaign. It worked because people don't like to be told economic facts (refer post above) and people don't like immigrants.

At least he is being honest now I guess.
 
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As an aside, I was thinking about TTIP today as that was a widely touted argument amongst the leave side. On the one hand, you have Britain as arguably the most pro-free market nation in the EU, so if anything it was the other EU countries that were holding back the whole process. Then you have the lengthy process of actually constructing such deals, and the urgency with which the UK will need to strike new deals when we move.

It seems likely therefore that we will attempt to strike our own version of TTIP as soon as possible, with the deal either practically identical to the existing one, or possibly even more in favour of the private sector.
 
Truth now; was the referendum result really, really binding, does the UK actually have to leave. Can parliament say sorry peeps you're wrong on this one so in the best interests etc etc
 
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