Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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JimmyJeffers said:
I’m not. I’m saying that irrational fears over immigration perpetrated by the press and politicians mixed with a bubbling racist undercurrent that has always existed were the primary drives for brexit.
I’m fully aware that many non racists voted for brexit but to deny that the main crux of the leave campaign was based on xenophobic attitudes and rhetoric is deluded and also entirely wrong.
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I think some corners it was and some definitely voted Leave because of that, but I honestly think it was amplified by the press for story.

The Farage and Robinson elements happily played on the racists and fear of immigration.

I genuinely think that a lot of little Englander xenophobes and racists voted leave, but always would've done. There is a huge middle ground that we're swept up with patriotism and promise of grand ideals about sovereignty, but also a sizeable proportion of people that voted leave because they didn't want the status quo that was presented by Cameron.

Likewise, there are many remain voters that refuse blankly to find any fault with the EU or countenance any rationale for leaving.
 
BigBlueNose said:
In your opinion...
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And just about all other research that has looked at the issue. But experts eh
Example:
‘Our analysis suggests that the idea that the referendum was a lightning rod for a rising ‘anti-politics’ tide is wide of the mark. People’s level of trust in government at most played only a minor role in influencing how they voted. Instead, the result reflected the concerns of older, more ‘authoritarian’ or social conservative voters who were particularly worried about immigration. Any suggestion that immigration was not at the heart of this vote runs counter to what we have found.’

British Social Attitudes 34

Introduction to the 34th British Social Attitudes Report.
www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
I might do in debate.

But I don't encourage people to find offence and inference where none have been intended. I don't try to get posters banned unnecessarily, I correct people of they are mistaken rather than getting them to double down on it.
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So basically....... you do stir things to be honest.Don't move the goal posts lol
 
JimmyJeffers said:
And just about all other research that has looked at the issue. But experts eh
Example:
‘Our analysis suggests that the idea that the referendum was a lightning rod for a rising ‘anti-politics’ tide is wide of the mark. People’s level of trust in government at most played only a minor role in influencing how they voted. Instead, the result reflected the concerns of older, more ‘authoritarian’ or social conservative voters who were particularly worried about immigration. Any suggestion that immigration was not at the heart of this vote runs counter to what we have found.’

British Social Attitudes 34

Introduction to the 34th British Social Attitudes Report.
www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk
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You seem to be able to read the minds of leave voters.

Every single leave voter had their own opinions as why to vote leave..

But generalising that the leave vote was based on racist tendencies and immigration totally suits your agenda so you will peddle it out at every opportunity.

I personally believe leaving the EU megastate will work wonders for our own economy as we are seen worldwide as such a safe investment opportunity..

That must make me a bigot and racist though...
 
BigBlueNose said:
You seem to be able to read the minds of leave voters.

Every single leave voter had their own opinions as why to vote leave..

But generalising that the leave vote was based on racist tendencies and immigration totally suits your agenda so you will peddle it out at every opportunity.

I personally believe leaving the EU megastate will work wonders for our own economy as we are seen worldwide as such a safe investment opportunity..

That must make me a bigot and racist though...
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I didn’t generalise though. You did
 
BigBlueNose said:
Oh I thought you said all leave voters were racists..

I take it you don't think that then?
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Leave: remainers think all leave voters are racist

Remainers: no we dont

Leave: well why did you say it then

Remain: nobody has said that, you're misinterpreting, I said that all racists voted leave

Leave: i can't believe you called me a racist

Remain i didn't

Leave: but you just said all leave voters are racist

Remain: :Blink:
 
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