what's with all this 'elite' crap. The elite own all the right wing rags that have you in this mess.
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Barnfred 55
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What question would you have on the referendum paper.
- Which bit defined 'Leave' in the leaflet?
- May's deal and No Deal were not the only options available proposed during the referendum so why should they be the only options available to the electorate?
- It's not a question of constitutional concern, so why would it be subject to plebiscite?
Just parroting Farage and laughably, Rees-Mogg.
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Option 1 is easy... "Revoke Article 50"
Option 2 is far more contentious and one that the HoC are never going to agree on. Option 2 needs to be leaving the EU with the deal that a majority of the HoC believe is the best way forward. The problem is, if we can get to that point where the HoC can get a majority then we'll just leave on those terms without it going to a referendum against the remain option.
For that reason, I can't see a referendum being a realistic way forward.
summerisle
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God's pissed off.
*other metaphors are available.
*other metaphors are available.
Barnfred 55
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The problem with these vague posts is that you don't know who they are directed at. As it directly follows a post of mine in which I said I was against a second referendum, I'll assume I am one of the ones it is directed towards. If so, please tell me where I have said that going against the initial referendum is dangerous fro democracy.
Why would you assume that? It seemed a comment on MPs to my eye.
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And the level of venom from the elite and its press is unprecedented. Our press is not the press of a sane democratic nation. Some of the of stuff you would expect to see in an extreme right wing dictatorship and is very concerning, since the "enemies of the people" was plastered all over the front pages there has not been much let up either. Much of the press is affront to democrocy.
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Barnfred 55
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That's why I asked the question. I can't think of a question choice that would engage all of the leave vote except for a straightforward remain/leave. And we all know that isn't acceptable. Any referendum has to engage the whole of the electorate or it isn't democratic.
The binman chronicles
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It is difficult. If no deal is expunged from the record then it will be whatever gets approved by the house and revoke or postpone until there is something that allows exiting without the problems we are facing with Ireland.
What we really need is about 35 million of those Men In Black memory erasers to be sent to every home to reset everyone back to before the referendum though.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
*The whole document defined Leave by spelling out all of the things we were going to lose. Yet even though studies have shown that the document had the desired effect of lowering the Leave vote, we still voted Leave.
*Because you wouldn’t want to confuse the ignorant voters
*Why not, we seem to be in a continual state of voting at the moment so let’s do the whole thing....
Written by James Slack who is now Downing Street Press SecretaryAnd the level of venom from the elite and its press is unprecedented. Our press is not the press of a sane democratic nation. Some of the of stuff you would expect to see in an extreme right wing dictatorship and is very concerning, since the "enemies of the people" was plastered all over the front pages there has not been much let up either. Much of the press is affront to democrocy.
Enemies of the People (headline) - Wikipedia
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I do not parrot anyone. I have dealt with these people for many years and understand just how they view and treat the average citizen....
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