Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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No, I wont go back several thousands of pages. And if you can find one post from me calling you or anyone else on here a racist or a bigot, then good luck.

Its just after nearly 3 years of all this, I would have thought you would know what you are looking forward to having when we leave, that we dont already have.

If you think that is an unreasonable question, then say that its unreasonable. If you cannot answer it, then admit it. Or answer it.
I think the answer is 'proving Remainers wrong'
 
Last time.

Go back a couple or thousand pages or so and see the extensive reply I gave to your present question several times. And see also the abuse I and other got, like being called bigots, racists, Little Englanders, etc..

And I was the one doing the micky-taking (about the photo), not you! Jeez, read it properly!
You lost all credibility when you dismissed all concerns of Ireland being a stumbling block to Brexit. It really isn’t worth trawling back through your posts as regards Brexit as you are talking out of your arse while hiding behind posting YouTube links to songs.
 
I think the answer is 'proving Remainers wrong'

Maybe, but I doubt it. @Old Blue 2 is a man of intellect. We may disagree on the EU stuff, but I certainly assume and acknowledge that he has an inquiring mind, is a sound blue, and has life experiences wider (probably) than me.

Thats why I am bemused that I cannot get a reasoned response to my question.
 
You see, Barnfred, this is the kind of crap I, and others who voted Leave, have endured for the last 2 years or more, ever before you entered the thread.

Constant sniping at EVERY little thing that is posted. They never give up.

This will probably elicit another response. Keep watching, it's bound to come...
Expect @Mutzo Nutzo to pipe up with some unfunny quip
 
Sound. But not able to tell me what you are looking forward to having, that we dont all ready have.
Here's a question if we were outside the EU now - would you want to join a polictical club where the German Banks are having to merge.. the italians are in meltdown - the Greeks have had their ports and antiquities put on hock by the EU the Eurozone is zilch growth , and it has two parliaments - would you pay 9 billion per year to join the club when others get trade deals free? then the other 7 billion they tell us how to spend it on sometimes useless projects like Cycle tracks etc....
We would be mad - oh wait we have a chance to leave all that.........
 
Maybe, but I doubt it. @Old Blue 2 is a man of intellect. We may disagree on the EU stuff, but I certainly assume and acknowledge that he has an inquiring mind, is a sound blue, and has life experiences wider (probably) than me.

Thats why I am bemused that I cannot get a reasoned response to my question.
Odd isn't it. I've asked all the leavers in this thread for their reasons why, they are either completely silent, ask me to 'read the thread' or offer a deflection.

There is repeatedly chimes of 'you lost', so what's the reticence to give an opinion?
 
Here's a question if we were outside the EU now - would you want to join a polictical club where the German Banks are having to merge.. the italians are in meltdown - the Greeks have had their ports and antiquities put on hock by the EU the Eurozone is zilch growth , and it has two parliaments - would you pay 9 billion per year to join the club when others get trade deals free? then the other 7 billion they tell us how to spend it on sometimes useless projects like Cycle tracks etc....
We would be mad - oh wait we have a chance to leave all that.........

I will answer honestly mate. And the answer is that if we had traded quite happily, and had cordial terms with the EU as an independent nation for 45 years, then no, I would not want to join.
 
Here's a question if we were outside the EU now - would you want to join a polictical club where the German Banks are having to merge.. the italians are in meltdown - the Greeks have had their ports and antiquities put on hock by the EU the Eurozone is zilch growth , and it has two parliaments - would you pay 9 billion per year to join the club when others get trade deals free? then the other 7 billion they tell us how to spend it on sometimes useless projects like Cycle tracks etc....
We would be mad - oh wait we have a chance to leave all that.........
Would you want to join one of the biggest markets in the world with free movement of goods, services and people?

Who don't tell us how to spend it, but we have a voice in deciding how money we pay to be part of said Union is spent?

Yes
 
Here's a question if we were outside the EU now - would you want to join a polictical club where the German Banks are having to merge.. the italians are in meltdown - the Greeks have had their ports and antiquities put on hock by the EU the Eurozone is zilch growth , and it has two parliaments - would you pay 9 billion per year to join the club when others get trade deals free? then the other 7 billion they tell us how to spend it on sometimes useless projects like Cycle tracks etc....
We would be mad - oh wait we have a chance to leave all that.........
Nice work joey..
 
Odd isn't it. I've asked all the leavers in this thread for their reasons why, they are either completely silent, ask me to 'read the thread' or offer a deflection.

There is repeatedly chimes of 'you lost', so what's the reticence to give an opinion?
Well either way, if we leave with a deal or not we won't be having much say in the future failure of the EU experiment.
 
Here's a question if we were outside the EU now - would you want to join a polictical club where the German Banks are having to merge.. the italians are in meltdown - the Greeks have had their ports and antiquities put on hock by the EU the Eurozone ithe EU ts zilch growth , and it has two parliaments - would you pay 9 billion per year to join the club when others get trade deals free? then the other 7 billion they tell us how to spend it on sometimes useless projects like Cycle tracks etc....
We would be mad - oh wait we have a chance to leave all that.........
The European Commission (EC) has issued a stark warning of growing "uncertainty and numerous, interconnected risks" amid slower growth for the eurozone, with UK growth expected to stagnate and remain lower than any EU27 member state.

Figures released as part of the autumn 2018 European Economic Forecast reveal that UK growth is expected to fall from 1.3% in 2018 to 1.2% in 2019 and 2020.

Meanwhile, the average EU27 nation - the remaining EU member states after UK exits the bloc - have seen growth on average of 2.2% this year, with the EC forecasting this will slow to 2% and 1.9% in 2019 and 2020 respectively.

The fastest growth of the EU27 is expected from Ireland and Malta, with the former witnessing GDP growth of 7.8% this year, slowing to 4.5% and 3.8% in the following two years. Meanwhile, Malta has seen 2018 GDP growth of 5.4%, which is expected to fall to 4.9% and 4.4% in 2019 and 2020 respectively.

Outside of the UK, Italy, which has grown by just 1% in a 2018 rife with political turmoil, is expected to see growth of 1.2% and 1.3% in the following two years. Director general for economic and financial affairs Marco Buti said the EC expects GDP in the euro area to "decelerate in line with a further slowing momentum of foreign trade as the global economy has entered more choppy waters".


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