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Announcement from Strasburg at 9.00 pm tonight. May is currently on a plane to there.

You never know........
 
roydo said:
Announcement from Strasburg at 9.00 pm tonight. May is currently on a plane to there.

You never know........
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It's as staged as WWE at this point. Of course there will be something presented as a 'breakthrough', leaving it to the last possible minute so that, for one, they can run the clock down as far as possible and secondly so that they can pretend May has 'fought for Britain'.

It's all transparently ridiculous.
 
Tubey said:
It's as staged as WWE at this point. Of course there will be something presented as a 'breakthrough', leaving it to the last possible minute so that, for one, they can run the clock down as far as possible and secondly so that they can pretend May has 'fought for Britain'.

It's all transparently ridiculous.
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It has certainly played out like a few thought it would. With a few unpredictable swerves along the way.
 
roydo said:
It has certainly played out like a few thought it would. With a few unpredictable swerves along the way.
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It's all a political game. People should be universally outraged by what's going on.



^ This right here isn't funny. It's going to effect real lives for years upon years to come. Yet these tossers in London are playing games like they're in school - it's a disgrace.
 
Tubey said:
It's all a political game. People should be universally outraged by what's going on.



^ This right here isn't funny. It's going to effect real lives for years upon years to come. Yet these tossers in London are playing games like they're in school - it's a disgrace.
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Yeah, I saw that yesterday. Thing is, it gets dressed up as "Them bankers" and such like. And to a point, that is true. They have no affiliation to anywhere, just where they can max out most profitably.

But the tax take could be sizeable, in some shape or form.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
I don't know why you have brought the highlighted bit into this discussion. I have already said twice that I don't agree with numeric targets for immigration or said that immigration needs to be reduced. I have always said it should be based on needs. Also, I read about a third of the articles on the migration observatory website, and chose the articles whose title indicated that it may contain the information I was looking for. I didn't find any of it. I'm not saying it isn't there but after reading about 10 immigration articles back to back I'd had enough for one night.

But let's get back to my view on immigration that you obviously have such an issue with. For me there are basically three types of immigration. People coming into the UK to study, asylum seekers, and people coming here to work. The first group bring a lot of income into the country, and in particular the Universities purses, and I believe this should be encouraged as much as possible. The second is a social obligation of the country IMO, but who and how many is best left for a different discussion. The third is where you seem to have a big issue with me.

My belief here is that it should be structured to meet demand, whether that be for managerial, professional, skilled, semi skilled or manual. If positions can't be filled from people already resident in the UK then they need to be brought in from overseas. Employers should be able to bring in the best people suited to those jobs, wherever they come from. At the moment, there are restrictions on how many none EU working visas are issued each year and I don't think this is fair. I think I used the phrase it should be based on ability to do the job rather than where you are from.

You then started asking me for the evidence on which I based my opinion. I didn't know where you were coming from as to me, it was just a belief based common sense and a matter of fairness. I hadn't based it on any facts per se. Just give the job to the best person no mater where you happen to be born.

So then you gave me your evidence on which you based your opinion. And I quote "Yes, I have. EU migrants are typically higher educated, more likely to be in work, younger with fewer dependents and less likely to be criminals. That's people we have no control over"

What's the difference in what you put there to racial profiling?. Even if that information is factually correct, which I have doubts over as the vast majority of the non EU migrants are either students or asylum seekers, just the fact that you are openly saying those things is wrong. If I, as a leave voter, had posted something along the same lines, I'd have been lynch mobbed in here. It's been bad enough suggesting that non UK and Irish citizens are supposed to show their passports when entering mainland UK.
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Good effort. Not surprised you gave up. Heavy night time reading that.
Mark O'Silver said:
lollol
Don't be so soft. If anything was overly aggressive and argumentative it was your personalised response.

Check out getting middle fingered and told to eff off by a prominent Leaver in this thread if you want an example of bad behaviour.
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Ha I just treat that as @Joey66 idea of foreplay.
 
Apparently the backstop stays. The "deal" seems to be no an agreement to use the next 2 years to 'constructively' find an alternative to it, and also refer to an arbitration panel to determine the length of time a backstop needs to be in place.

In other words: she got nada.
 
davek said:
Apparently the backstop stays. The "deal" seems to be no an agreement to use the next 2 years to 'constructively' find an alternative to it, and also refer to an arbitration panel to determine the length of time a backstop needs to be in place.

In other words: she got nada.
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And you know that how?
 
davek said:
Apparently the backstop stays. The "deal" seems to be no an agreement to use the next 2 years to 'constructively' find an alternative to it, and also refer to an arbitration panel to determine the length of time a backstop needs to be in place.

In other words: she got nada.
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She must be the worst PM ever. She makes Cameron look like a statesman.
 
So she has failed to secure any legally binding changes to her withdrawal agreement. So in effect it is the same proposal that got booted out last time. I honestly don’t see the point in the vote tomorrow, surely Article 50 needs to be canned now and stop wasting everyone’s time.

She is an absolute mess of a prime minister.

The Tory party have failed to deliver Brexit so put it back to people who will end this charade once and for all.
 
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