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[edge]

We were taught in uni that they dated and of limited use - and this was 15 years ago. While they can highlight some aspects of certain types of abilities they're not a broad measure of intelligence, particularly modern mental ability. They don't indicate innate intelligence, social intelligence or creativity for example. In fact, certain types of high intelligence could result in lower scores due to the nature of the tests.

From googling, it looks like the survey you're referencing (thanks for making me open a Daily Mail article btw...) was conducted in Norway and not the UK, btw.

Apologies for the mail , joke of a paper think it was the telegraph I read it in originally, used tests on UK people, have seen that Norway one as well.
I haven't a clue how good they are , suppose logically they can only measure a limited fields of intelligence so it would be subjective?
Been on the vodkas watching the boxing so not sure if that makes sense to anybody but me at the moment.

 

[abelard]

I think what's been lost in the millennial generation is a can-do attitude, a strive for independence. Brexit should be an opportunity to see what one can do with it, instead they're all moaning.

We should send you round to share your great wisdom with the thousands of auto workers who've already lost their jobs.

 

[Jebus_lives]

No idea where those stats come from. Have you a source? Who's been tested and by whom? None of us I expect.

I think what's been lost in the millennial generation is a can-do attitude, a strive for independence. Brexit should be an opportunity to see what one can do with it, instead they're all moaning.

Here's a turd - get polishing young'uns

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Apologies for the mail , joke of a paper think it was the telegraph I read it in originally, used tests on UK people, have seen that Norway one as well.
I haven't a clue how good they are , suppose logically they can only measure a limited fields of intelligence so it would be subjective?
Been on the vodkas watching the boxing so not sure if that makes sense to anybody but me at the moment.

You're only making it worse mate

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We should send you round to share your great wisdom with the thousands of auto workers who've already lost their jobs.

Telling them to get on their bike would both increase their Dunkirk spirit and also boost British bike sales. Go on @dholliday. A YouTube video or something would suffice.

 

[abelard]

Telling them to get on their bike would both increase their Dunkirk spirit and also boost British bike sales. Go on @dholliday. A YouTube video or something would suffice.

I have taken our most wise forum philosopher's words to heart, and THROUGH THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING ALONE successfully developed British-grown avocados for my obligatory millennial breakfast toast, to compensate for the impact of a No Deal Brexit.

True, it mostly tastes of damp rutabaga and food colouring, but I enjoy it all the same THANKS TO THE EXTRAORDINARY POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING.

I would encourage the good people of Swindon to top up their bank balances once the EI cheques run out SIMPLY BY USING THE POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING.

In conclusion, something about George Orwell

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Joking aside though, if we run with the narrative that Brexit was a protest/cry out from communities that have seen better days, the early job losses will certainly give the Brexiteers a chance to show off how being out of the EU will help them to help such communities.

As with the DCMS report, I've probably missed the detailed plans on how that will happen, but maybe @peteblue, @Old Blue 2 and Joey can point us in the direction of such plans?

 

[Walken]

Watching boxing mate ,but Google UK iQ rates dropping plenty there if not will get them for you tomorrow.

I don't really think anyone puts any stock in that nonsense anymore, its a bit antiquated

 

[edge]

No idea where those stats come from. Have you a source? Who's been tested and by whom? None of us I expect.

I think what's been lost in the millennial generation is a can-do attitude, a strive for independence. Brexit should be an opportunity to see what one can do with it, instead they're all moaning.

here is an article about it matehttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/4548943/British-teenagers-have-lower-IQs-than-their-counterparts-did-30-years-ago.html,
bit of a misleading headline though when you look further into it as when you factor in age your score goes up yearly till you around 15 then drops of for a period ,then rises up till 28.
thinking about it i wonder if technology has anything to do it with it as years ago people had to do maths ect in their head instead of on a computer, calculator ect so they may have been more adapt at this type of test?

 

[Jebus_lives]

here is an article about it matehttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/4548943/British-teenagers-have-lower-IQs-than-their-counterparts-did-30-years-ago.html,
bit of a misleading headline though when you look further into it as when you factor in age your score goes up yearly till you around 15 then drops of for a period ,then rises up till 28.
thinking about it i wonder if technology has anything to do it with it as years ago people had to do maths ect in their head instead of on a computer, calculator ect so they may have been more adapt at this type of test?

IQ tests don't really factor in modern teaching methods and any adaptation in types of intelligence. Such as relevance of digital literacy over more traditional 'taught' methods of education.

It would be interesting to see data on the relevance of digital literacy in modern understanding, particularly the higher tiered literacy standards around understanding and creation over simply access to information.

It has been muted that it be given the same profile as reading, writing and maths in education which does make some sense in a modern context.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Telling them to get on their bike would both increase their Dunkirk spirit and also boost British bike sales. Go on @dholliday. A YouTube video or something would suffice.

Muffin Break faces backlash after boss says millennials won't do unpaid work

Uproar comes as parliamentary inquiry into Australian franchise sector prepares final report

www.theguardian.com

It's a shift in what people are willing to do for the outcome. Much of the spite directed towards millennials seems to fall under the 'they won't demean themselves to get ahead'.

Well good, nobody should have to.

 

[Barnfred 55]

You assume reciprocal tariffs. You then went on to mention how we could have tariff-free electrical goods exporting to USA without mentioning that your reciprocal tariffs would mean US electrical goods (of which we import more than export) coming cheaply into the UK and undercutting our home markets.

And in trade, the likes of USA, Japan and China are way more important to our trade than we are to theirs. They have all the leverage.

I don't assume the worst scenario, I expect the likely scenario. That is: trade deals are hammered out over many years, involve all kinds of compromises and concessions, and generally the biggest dog gets the best bit of meat at the end of it. While the US is our biggest export market, we are way down their list of importance

The word you used in your post was "Unicorn".

You don't know me from Adam but you automatically claim the intellectual high line and then try to ridicule my view with some crass cheap shot. I must say that is typical of the trite generalised view many remainers have of people just because they happened to vote to leave the EC. Your arrogance and air of superiority is bordering on bigotry, and straight from the off I overlooked the underlying condescension of your initial reply in the hope I could have a meaningful discussion with you.

I have never claimed to be an expert on International trade, but I do know enough not to have needed the condescending mansplaining you kindly provided above. I also know that it is easier for a small enterprise like the UK to find area's of mutual concession, than it is for a conglomerate like the EC which has the interests of 28 individual states to protect. I never said it would be easy but I stand by what I said in that you have no idea whatsoever what trade agreements could be put in place, and automatically assume the worst because that fits your agenda.

As regards the example I gave that you refer to you, that post wasn't aimed at you. It was a response to somebody else who was clearly at cross purposes regarding a point I was trying to make. It was purely an example aimed at explaining my point, not a recommendation on what we should do. I'll leave that to the experts.

 

[Barnfred 55]

We was warned over a year ago we'd take a big hit but no one imagined we'd have the nightmare no deal scenario. Looks very possible now though

The Brexit deal that is on the table now is by all accounts a "soft" Brexit that will almost certainly see us stay within some sort of customs union. At worst (or best depending upon your view) the two sides could agree on a trade deal compromise before the backstop comes into play.

If this deal was accepted by Parliament, would your employment situation be more secure?

 

[Number_25]

It's absolutely unreal reading through the previous couple of pages here.

The vast majority of people that voted to leave the EU aren't thick, conversely the vast majority of people that voted to remain in the EU aren't thick either.

The post-referendum discussion has been an absolute cesspit, and I mostly blame the media for it. They all come from the same 2/3 Universities and have little understanding what real life is like, Brexit has given them an opportunity to feign understanding through polarising a vast array of opinions into binary soundbites.

It's pathetic and you're all playing a part in that.

 

[Old Blue 2]

It's absolutely unreal reading through the previous couple of pages here.

The vast majority of people that voted to leave the EU aren't thick, conversely the vast majority of people that voted to remain in the EU aren't thick either.

The post-referendum discussion has been an absolute cesspit, and I mostly blame the media for it. They all come from the same 2/3 Universities and have little understanding what real life is like, Brexit has given them an opportunity to feign understanding through polarising a vast array of opinions into binary soundbites.

It's pathetic and you're all playing a part in that.

Well, all I'm doing is playing my guitar, listening to music, watching some football, and writing some words...