Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

Sorry, perhaps dishonest was the wrong word there; I just cannot understand people who want to get rid of this shower but refuse to acknowledge there is only one realistic way we could ever do it.

With regards to your point above, the thing with Corbyn is not so much that I think he’d be better than May (though the lack of red lines and the mainly remain nature of Labour would almost certainly mean a less damaging exit or a higher chance of 2nd ref / remain), it’s that internal reforms offer the possibility of getting rid of this political culture whereby opinion matters more than fact.

If Labour can get to the point where local parties genuinely have control over selection, we might start to see better politicians rather than the sort we have now.

Sure, realistically we are in a two party system, and so in essence the only alternative to May is Corbyn. That doesn't mean I'm happy about that situation however

 

[Harryflashman]

Cargo as far as I know mate, I know there is a Dutch firm that does it as well,
Sorry to be a bit vague but I have switched off on the whole Brexit thing at the moment, just waiting for it to be over with . nothing I can do about it so just ignoring it as best as I can,
more interested in transfer day to be honest at the moment.

Wasn’t having a go mate honestly . There are just so many factors involved , I understand we’re going but this ridiculousness isn’t just getting on your nerves fella it’s a pain .

As for the window , at least Huddersfield got a Small amount of interest going . The other day after millwall I couldn’t cope with even reading a rumour .

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[davids]

 

[peteblue]

I've provided multiple quotes from the EU as to why it won't be renegotiated. If you can't be bothered reading them that's your problem.

You said it can’t, not it won’t. So are you now saying is that it can be renegotiated but they won’t.....

 

[sbbefc]

Jesus Christ, you could easily get through that document in less than an hour. What the hell are these useless cretins doing?

 

[peteblue]

Quite possibly Pete, but the fact remains that nothing has been done. The likes of InnovateUK quite regularly run competitions, and it would seem logical that they would have provided one on this issue, with a bounty at the end for whomever can solve the problem, but alas nothing has been done. Equally, very few (if any) companies have been shouting from the rooftops about how their technology could crack this nut, which you would think quite logical given the commercial value of such a contract.

That none of this has been happening, no open calls for technology, no prototypes developed, no tests conducted, not even any over enthusiastic PR person shouting about their technology, suggests to me that it's a problem without a solution at the moment. I suspect the technical knowledge of people like Mogg and Johnson is on a par with their peers in the US Congress who were shown up when 'grilling' Facebook and Google recently, and they're just shouting about a technological panacea they have no clue about, either whether it works or even exists.

I don’t really know how many times I need to say this, it’s a process issue. Whatever technology a system designer needs for this already exists....

 

[thirdmantackle]

The government keep going to the EC with suggestions, which are rebuffed. To my knowledge the E.U. haven’t engaged in anything but say no.

No they don't
They haven't come up with one single workable suggestion or solution
In fact, they spent 18 months negotiating the solutions based on the UKs suggestions, and then didn't voted against them because they suddenly don't suit

 

[peteblue]

Technology is the issue if nobody seems to know what it is . Brexiteers seem adamant that exists but to my knowledge nobody seems able to identify it . If it exists why doesn’t the PM , ERG , Boris any company that makes it or anybody say yep here it is ready to go . Not just that what will this technology do , I don’t understand what it’s meant to do . It’s the very epitome of a magic bullet .

So what is all this technology, that maybe required, that doesn’t exist ?......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Jesus Christ, you could easily get through that document in less than an hour. What the hell are these useless cretins doing?

He went to the David Davis school of preparation.

 

[thirdmantackle]

the technological solutions are like the Wizard of Oz.

 

[Harryflashman]

So what is all this technology, that maybe required, that doesn’t exist ?......

I’m saying I don’t know pete , I don’t know what it’s supposed to do . What I’m saying is everyone tells me it exists , I’d settle for what it’ll do , then we can discuss whether it’ll work .

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don’t really know how many times I need to say this, it’s a process issue. Whatever technology a system designer needs for this already exists....

If it's so simple, there would have been a test bed set up to showcase the process in action. These are in place in all manner of other domains, from healthcare to transportation, yet on this seemingly crucial area, we have bugger all. I wonder why that is?

 

[Khalekan]

DUP MP Sammy Wilson made the throw-away remark in the Commons earlier today after the SNP’s Ian Blackford cited a warning from the British Retail Consortium that there is potential for food shortages, after the main supermarkets voiced fears this week.

As Blackford told MPs: “Just dwell on this, Sainsbury’s, Asda, Marks & Spencer, the Co-op, Waitrose, Costcutter all warning of not being able to have sufficient supplies, of shelves lying empty,” the East Antrim MP shouted: “go to the chippy!”

Utter scum.

Sammy Tache is uncouth.

Marie Antoinette would have advised us to go to the Cake Shop

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

You said it can’t, not it won’t. So are you now saying is that it can be renegotiated but they won’t.....

It can't be renegotiated because the EU have said it won't be.

If you want to play pedantic word games find someone else to play with.