Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Old Blue 2]

One might liken May to Grouchy in the evening of 18th June 1815...

 

[Stav1985]

So once again May is propped up by those orange scumbags. Pathetic.

 

[The binman chronicles]

So once again May is propped up by those orange scumbags. Pathetic.

She's been propped up by the cast of The Only Way Is Essex??

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

So once again May is propped up by those orange scumbags. Pathetic.

Further evidence Northern Ireland needs punting asap.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

So its has taken 2 years and 7 months for the UK government to decide to have a few meetings with other politicians to discuss what they are going to do about one of the most important decisions in their history, after wasting another day today squabbling with each other.

They could not have made a bigger mess of it than they have done, and it will be recorded one of the most embarrassing episodes in British political history.

And it may well be that they have left it too late.

 

[Seathestars]

Not accurate. The government can withdraw article 50 at any time, the ECJ ruled as such. No legislation needs to be passed for a revocation to take place. Furthermore, the government would not have to pass an act of parliament to do so. May has the power to withdraw article 50 without parliamentary support.

Obviously the political ramifications of revocation are different to the legal ones, but from a legal perspective, HM gov can choose to remain in the EU without referenda nor act of parliament.

She has said time and again that she will honour the vote.
I’m wondering if she’s stalling it all on purpose so we leave without a deal.

 

[The binman chronicles]

She has said time and again that she will honour the vote.
I’m wondering if she’s stalling it all on purpose so we leave without a deal.

About the size of it, she wants cross party input as long as it equals the same as the deal they have already rejected = time wasting.

 

[DanEFC92]

So once again May is propped up by those orange scumbags. Pathetic.

Not one rebel either. Predictably, pathetically partisan.

 

[tsubaki]

One might liken May to Grouchy in the evening of 18th June 1815...

If we are comparing her to Napoleonic generals, then she is much more of a Kleber - left to deal with a disaster of someone else’s making (the actual description being “trousers full of sh*t”) and then losing horribly over a period of time.

 

[magicjuan]

Not accurate. The government can withdraw article 50 at any time, the ECJ ruled as such. No legislation needs to be passed for a revocation to take place. Furthermore, the government would not have to pass an act of parliament to do so. May has the power to withdraw article 50 without parliamentary support.

Obviously the political ramifications of revocation are different to the legal ones, but from a legal perspective, HM gov can choose to remain in the EU without referenda nor act of parliament.

I'm at a bit of a loss on this. On one hand, albeit at the time constraints at place, I understand there has to be a legal repeal of the enacted law (making the country leave the EU) as passed by parliament?
As you have worded it, that is an acceptance or understanding that the EU law supercedes that of parliament?
If that was the case aren't the wrong people making the decisions?

 

[Old Blue 2]

If we are comparing her to Napoleonic generals, then she is much more of a Kleber - left to deal with a disaster of someone else’s making (the actual description being “trousers full of sh*t”) and then losing horribly over a period of time.

Mine was more for the fact that Grouchy was on the go all day and ended up doing the sum total of nothing with regard to the day's events. He neither prevented Blücher's troops from entering the battle, nor got his own troops into the Battle.

 

[Ballymoney1]

DUP votes have been bought. How predictable.

She didn't even need the 10 DUP votes in the end

 

[gonetomorrow]

Well now they'd better all start doing what they do best i. e. Talking and then cobble together an exit plan.

The EU seem amenable to putting the date back a bit so surely they can come up with something.

 

[Joey66]

She didn't even need the 10 DUP votes in the end

She did if they had supported Corbyn she would have been defeated - do the maths 10 more votes onto the Labour vote 10 off the Tory vote.......
No chance of the DUP backing Corbyn with his history in Ireland..... plus they are more Tory than the Tories

 

[edge]

I'm at a bit of a loss on this. On one hand, albeit at the time constraints at place, I understand there has to be a legal repeal of the enacted law (making the country leave the EU) as passed by parliament?
As you have worded it, that is an acceptance or understanding that the EU law supercedes that of parliament?
If that was the case aren't the wrong people making the decisions?

on the radio the other day the fella who helped write article 50, said UK law always trumps parliament, until parliament changes the law, the way he explained it there is a set sequence that parliament has to go through to chance a law it has enacted ,
he wasn't sure if they had enough time to do this?
might be wrong but i think the government has to agree for it to happen as well for it to go forward not parliament in the first instance.