Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Tubey said:
The vote will be returned by the Tories over and over again until it passes.

They're running the clock and forcing Brexiteer hands for the exact reason you state - she'll keep saying it's this deal or nothing, and the Tories will eventually begrudgingly fall in line.
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I don't think she'll get the chance to do that. I haven't done the parliament arithmetic but I would guesstimate with the DUP not going for it + the Tory remainers/rebels, that they would not get enough votes from the other parties to make up those numbers and especially if no deal looks like it can be removed as a threat and the house can smell blood.
 
orchard said:
All about you mate x
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Too right it is Tory BSD...... who used to wear a Labour Rosette - his wife an editor in the Daily Fail - his plan will never get through too many rich people have log burners anyway... ok let's just let commercial plane fly and ban the holiday planes are causing the pollution if that affects you would you be pleased?.......
 
The binman chronicles said:
Granted but that is the only option brexiteers will get. No deal will be ruled out and we will either switch to a Norway style deal (which I don't think people will see as leaving) or have a second vote and remain.
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Which were my thoughts immediately after Bercow ditched convention and allowed the amendment. I’m not so sure now. May will be defeated and she may well have to stand down and be replaced as PM, but I think Corbyn will lose any confidence vote. Even Soubry and Grieve wouldn’t commit suicide by voting their own government out of office. If May does go then I don’t believe any of the current pro-E.U. tories will stand a chance, including Hammond who is keeping quiet at the moment, as they will be seen as those who stabbed the party in the back, with a chance that the conservatives could face election wipeout. So the next PM will be a Brexiteer.....
 
Armel said:
Most I said was that I wasn't a big fan of inciting hatred/violence. So no talking of murdering people, lessen the war rhetoric, blaming other people, no disparaging behaviour towards nationalities ... Lots of anger. You can't 'win' Brexit. It's not a competitive sport.

On a positive note; John Cleese gave a keynote speech about creativity on the work-floor, Brexit and British politics in Antwerp in front of the Flemish chamber of commerce. So it's a bit more Monty Python now.



If you plan to drive (not only lorries) in France and Belgium (and a whole range of other European countries) you're required by law to have a yellow vest in your vehicle. So they chose that uniform because it was cheap, since you already probably own a few.

Has to be said the mainly (very) left yellow vest protesters (very similar in the French speaking part of Belgium and France) are quite peeved off with the right (in other countries) high-jacking their symbol.



It's a fairly decent building, but there are more impressive buildings in Brussels imo. Concerning the 28 windows. One/country. I do wonder what will happen with the U.K. window, in case of a Brexit... Last I heard there were +- 40 000 public servants working for the E.U. Quite a few cities have more employees. The competition to work there is extremely high though. An oversupply of very highly educated people, from across the E.U., hover around there for a scarce amount of jobs. Not only for the EU jobs, but also the NGO's. Apart from the exams (that's how most get in- very difficult apparently); you have the internships. Very good if you want to be exploited (quite a few are unpaid or for very small amounts), or alternatively you have rich parents/work an extra job. My French friend used to get paid 180 € to do an internship for the Armenian representation at the E.U. - she was lucky that she had a boyfriend who lived in Brussels so she could afford that. You can find most of these interns, around the bars around the Luxemburgplein, to network etc... Quite a few leave disheartened since you can be stuck in an internship for a long period (with absolutely no guarantee for a job); e.g.: if you do an internship for the E.U. commission only 4 percent gets a job. Salaries (once you get in) are very similar to what other big organisations pay; like NATO, IMO, UN etc...



I hope you feel better today.



I would be quite sceptical about what the Calais mayor says, I think he's just protecting his own interests. What I read in the French newspapers they've only started their preparations, actual (not only plans) around the end of October. The Dutch, who have started their no-deal Brexit preparations, a whole lot sooner are still not finished with their recruitment drive (it takes quite a bit of time to train new customs personnel) and then you still have to build extra infrastructure - they do however expect to be ready in time (although if you're looking for a job; still plenty of Brexit related jobs available on the site of the Dutch government).
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He's a she-

Calais/Mayor

Natacha Bouchart
The Republicans
 
Joey66 said:
Too right it is Tory BSD...... who used to wear a Labour Rosette - his wife an editor in the Daily Fail - his plan will never get through too many rich people have log burners anyway... ok let's just let commercial plane fly and ban the holiday planes are causing the pollution if that affects you would you be pleased?.......
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as my mum used to say 'put on a jumper'
 
peteblue said:
So the next PM will be a Brexiteer.....
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What difference would that make if no deal is already ruled out and the EU aren't going to improve the terms?

They could only leave in name only and still have the free movement laws. That may be seen as a success in some eyes. A new PM has swooped in to prevent a situation where there is confusion and waiting like with May's deal, but deep down we all know it would have just been better to stay in the EU where we at least have a say and saved all this hassle and money.
 
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