Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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getting more like the USA every fkn day in this country there will be an outbreak of mullets next
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don't worry @Joey66 your supposed to believe in a deal made by a remainer ,put to parliament by a remainer and rejected by remainers, but its us leavers who are to blame for this mess.

It’s not remain is it ? I wanted to remain and I’ve been told by @Joey66 maybe 50 times that I lost and I need to get over it . So in a binary vote leave/remain we’re leaving , in what I think is a terrible deal so I’m really unhappy but you’re leaving .

17.4m people voted for leave and almost everyone of them probably had a different idea in mind , so how can a government satisfy everyone ? We certainly aren’t staying , Which is what I wanted.

As regards the decision to leave a lot of people campaigned to leave without a single one of them coming up with an idea how to achieve it . So yeah I’m going to blame the ones who promised the unachievable.
 
It’s not remain is it ? I wanted to remain and I’ve been told by @Joey66 maybe 50 times that I lost and I need to get over it . So in a binary vote leave/remain we’re leaving , in what I think is a terrible deal so I’m really unhappy but you’re leaving .

17.4m people voted for leave and almost everyone of them probably had a different idea in mind , so how can a government satisfy everyone ? We certainly aren’t staying , Which is what I wanted.

As regards the decision to leave a lot of people campaigned to leave without a single one of them coming up with an idea how to achieve it . So yeah I’m going to blame the ones who promised the unachievable.
Leave means Leave and you can't see that?
 
It matters not what you have stated regarding your “stance” on The Sun.

You should know better than to invoke the name of the man responsible for the lies that caused so much anguish to this city in 1989 and who is so unrepentant that he attacked us again a short time ago, using Ross Barkley’s background to traduce us further.

If you watched that video and thought “aye up, I will post this on the message board of a Liverpool based team” just to further the increasingly threadbare and desperate Brexit justification and did not expect to taken to task over it then you are very naive.

McKenzie has long since been exposed as a darned liar.....you do yourself no favours making common cause with such a fellow..

What is the matter with you...
 
Not at all.

I've stated my stance regarding the rag.

I have asked for corrections for anything that has been stated in the vid that is wrong. What is wrong with that?

It appears that you, and others, are still looking to hammer anyone whose views do not conform to your own, and who will not engage in normal discussion. Tell me what information is incorrect in the vid, and i will advance my understanding thereby...

Ok:

"Impose laws on 28 states"

Laws aren't imposed on 28 states, they're decided by 28 states.

"Democracy only works if you know who your representatives are"

Why would anyone in this country not know who their MEP or their Prime Minister is?

"Who are all these eurocrats and who are they answerable to?"

They're answerable to the European Council, who consist of the heads of each member state.

"The general MEPs have no power schtick"

That's not true, MEPs can approve, amend or reject pretty much all EU legislation. They also decide on the EU budget. The suggestion that they are less powerful than the House of Lords is a lie.

"European Commission meetings are held in secret and we have no idea what goes on in them"

Except both the agenda and the minutes from the meetings are all published:

http://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/?fuseaction=gridyear

"The tour of the Commission building..."

Those kind of facilities are in place in a great many workplaces these days. It's hardly like they're working in Versailles!

"10,000 officials earn more than the prime minister..."

As do 500 or so council officials, not to mention the various heads of the NHS and so on.

"The EU buy support from people"

I've done some work with them and am completely neutral.
 
Leave means Leave and you can't see that?

Yeah I can .

I know generally you don’t read other peoples posts but I’ve posted this before

Daniel hannan before the referendum

“Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market”


Farage

“Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing”


Banks

“Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK”


Matthew Elliot


“The Norwegian option, the EEA option, I think that it might be initally attractive for some business people”


Owen Patterson

“Only a madman would actually leave the Market”

So we can agree I’m sure that all kind of leave were suggested . So how had no deal become the only way we can leave , I simply just don’t understand how that’s happened .

May’s deal , which obviously I don’t like , is obviously leaving . You don’t have to like it , I certainly don’t , but it’s not remaining .
 
Ok:

"Impose laws on 28 states"

Laws aren't imposed on 28 states, they're decided by 28 states.

"Democracy only works if you know who your representatives are"

Why would anyone in this country not know who their MEP or their Prime Minister is?

"Who are all these eurocrats and who are they answerable to?"

They're answerable to the European Council, who consist of the heads of each member state.

"The general MEPs have no power schtick"

That's not true, MEPs can approve, amend or reject pretty much all EU legislation. They also decide on the EU budget. The suggestion that they are less powerful than the House of Lords is a lie.

"European Commission meetings are held in secret and we have no idea what goes on in them"

Except both the agenda and the minutes from the meetings are all published:

http://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/?fuseaction=gridyear

"The tour of the Commission building..."

Those kind of facilities are in place in a great many workplaces these days. It's hardly like they're working in Versailles!

"10,000 officials earn more than the prime minister..."

As do 500 or so council officials, not to mention the various heads of the NHS and so on.

"The EU buy support from people"

I've done some work with them and am completely neutral.
Serious effort to be completely ignored...
 
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