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nsno-chris said:
I’m working with the government to streamline the processes for imports of agrifood in the eventuality of a no deal Brexit. The technology doesn’t exist, the prenotification of such goods, which is fundamental to the relevant legislation, will be done via a basic .gov submission form. Miles away from the EU TRACES system which controls the current flow and risk identification of such goods.

Second to the technology is our inability to have required infrastructure in place. So if by some miracle someone can actually design, build, receive government backing, third country approval and commercial acceptance for such technologies within the 100 days left, then all imports will be done away from the border controlled area of the Port facility and will be conducted in land. However they’re are no staff to conduct such checks

There’s more but unfortunately I’m bound by NDA’s
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As someone who works in IT and specifically automated systems i am glad someone has backed up what i had to argue and defend months ago on this very thread. Glad you have thrown in perspective from the side of the user and industry.

Some brexiteers seem to think you can throw together any old system featuring whatever "technology" exist in the mainstream nowadays.

Sure some of it would work but would require plenty of planning and customization and would take at least a year to even plan. Technology is such a vague word anyway nowadays and is generally thrown around by people who don't understand what's needed.

My specialty is IT systems that use automation and the subsequent software and databases (back end) that goes with it. I have worked on many projects for various big and small companies across the globe.

Even if it were possible in the next 2 or 3 months it would go live with plenty of issues. governments especially fail big on IT projects. The Irish government with the medical database and front end system that was eventually scrapped. The UK when they introduced the new air traffic control system in 2000/2001 which caused airports to close for 24hrs. There are many other governments of other countries who fell flat too.

If the history of major IT related systems have thought us anything it is that the majority of them are over budget and wrong (as in the consultants and the customer were not on the same page) thus spending the preceding months putting band aids and temporary stops in place just to survive until such time it can be rebuilt or replaced.

The more they talk about the solution the less chance any will ever get off the ground. I guarantee any system that they do eventually choose will be a major headache if rushed.
 
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Don't dare say that people are uninformed though. You might hurt their feelings.
 
steveojcc said:
As someone who works in IT and specifically automated systems i am glad someone has backed up what i had to argue and defend months ago on this very thread. Glad you have thrown in perspective from the side of the user and industry.

Some brexiteers seem to think you can throw together any old system featuring whatever "technology" exist in the mainstream nowadays.

Sure some of it would work but would require plenty of planning and customization and would take at least a year to even plan. Technology is such a vague word anyway nowadays and is generally thrown around by people who don't understand what's needed.

My specialty is IT systems that use automation and the subsequent software and databases (back end) that goes with it. I have worked on many projects for various big and small companies across the globe.

Even if it were possible in the next 2 or 3 months it would go live with plenty of issues. governments especially fail big on IT projects. The Irish government with the medical database and front end system that was eventually scrapped. The UK when they introduced the new air traffic control system in 2000/2001 which caused airports to close for 24hrs. There are many other governments of other countries who fell flat too.

If the history of major IT related systems have thought us anything it is that the majority of them are over budget and wrong (as in the consultants and the customer were not on the same page) thus spending the preceding months putting band aids and temporary stops in place just to survive until such time it can be rebuilt or replaced.

The more they talk about the solution the less chance any will ever get off the ground. I guarantee any system that they do eventually choose will be a major headache if rushed.
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The shining example of this was the total and utter waste of millions, when they attempted to link the IT of all GP / Clinic`s / Hospitals together.

A mate of mine was part of the tender process when he worked for Marconi ( RIP) .

The stuff he told me was mind boggling - the government people in charge had very little technical IT knowledge and weren`t qualified / experienced enough to be dealing with something of this magnitude. Which lead to them pretending to know what was going on to save face, rather than ask hard questions, coupled with underhand lobbying, nepotism, cronyism etc.

By the time the contract was awarded the IT was already way out of date and despite this being screamed from the rooftops, they still went ahead regardless.

No one was ever held to account.

I think you`re being way too kind when you describe the implementation of whatever system they choose, as a " major headache ".

I`d go more for unmitigated disaster.
 
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