Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Spreadsheet Phil an avid Remainer urm did the booklet that cost £9 million predict all this -
also I would like to know if he has accounted for paying into an EU Army and future contribution rises in the EU - as a coincidence only 2nd to this is May's Brexit plan - are you havin a laugh - fetch the 2nd vote on the OUT majority will rise, and make the 2nd vote mandatory - the GP are sick of the EU, and spineless MPs like we have - let's have a Brexiteer PM next time , and we will soon see how the EU will negotiate then or let just get out on WTO rules .....
How many financial forecast does he ever get correct?..........
This is so rigged it's so predictable

The LSE is an independent source of research not linked to any political party or persuasion. How is it rigged?
 
You should read @Number_25's posts about campaigning for Remain to get a sense of the people I have in mind (which also have the advantage of having been written by a gentleman, and not an incorrigible smart-ass)

The tide will turn, if it turns, not by dunking on the dubious logic of internet cranks lurking on football forums, but by creating a society where people no longer feel so hopeless and alone.

It is an enormous challenge - and an existential one, really. It has to be confronted, full-on, if we're to have a prayer of preserving what we cherish about a tolerant, cosmopolitan society. The age of assuming that we can solve problems through marginal tweaks to the earned-income tax credit rate are over.

But it is also much more a political challenge than a policy challenge. We have, in living memory, ample examples of how to do it better. New Labour, for example, virtually eliminated homelessness, not through any great policy genius, but through trial and error driven by sheer political will. Conversely, reviving homelessness was also a political choice.

Lost in the kerfuffle over endless variations on Inappropriate-Rain-Attire-gate, there is a policy vision - at the moment, the only one on offer in Britain - for how to rebuild a farer society, where "equality of opportunity" is more than just a sick joke. Those who want to contribute something constructive need to acknowledge the need for change, rather than idly swatting away anything that deviates from a demonstrably failing status quo.

I'll overlook the comment that started the post, but will reiterate that very few countries/regions in the western world have managed to revitalise post-industrialized towns. This isn't a left/right issue and it's disingenuous to paint it as one, as there hasn't been a country in the world that has cracked this, regardless of their political persuasions. In the corporate world the mantra of our age is being adaptable to change, and to a large extent that is what globalisation brings - change at an ever increasing speed. It is largely the ability to adapt to this change (or buffer oneself from it) that is resulting in the inequalities we see in society today.

The equality of opportunity you speak about is to a large extent already here, as technology has made improvements in health, education and various other aspects of life incredibly affordable, but there remain social challenges that seem to prevent many in society from capitalising. I know it's the default mechanism, but simply throwing money at things isn't always the best way.

It's also perhaps worth remembering that the global economy suffered the biggest financial crash in a century, and that is bound to have implications. The various nations of the EU took various responses to this. Some took an approach to try and cut their cloth, others, such as France attempt to 'stimulate' their way out of it. The evidence is there for all to see so we don't need to rely on hypothetical questions about what the world would be like if Corbyn was in office. Their social system ensured that their economy fell less than Britains in the two years after the crash, but also recovered much slower in the years after that.

As I've said repeatedly, people peddling simple solutions are those to be avoided.
 
Eh!

WTF has that got to do with the report initated by and published by the London School of Economics?
Come on nutz.. You don't seriously rely on Predictions, esp ones this big!

If Predictions were to be believed just after the leave vote, then our economy would of gone in to recession and another 800,000 jobs gone.

The real picture is complete opposite
 
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