Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Seanjd]

You see, this is not quite correct. I've posted it in depth on here several times before. To precis, NOT having laws imposed by the EU which run contray to what we already have in place;

Please could you set out which laws set by the EU you so passionately disagree with and which ran contrary to our own?

I looked up all of the laws imposed by the EU here and thought they were all positive.

 

[roydo]

Please could you set out which laws set by the EU you so passionately disagree with and which ran contrary to our own?

I looked up all of the laws imposed by the EU here and thought they were all positive.

The light bulb ones annoy me.

 

[Seanjd]

The light bulb ones annoy me.

Hah, hardly a revolt against the establishment issue though is it

 

[bobbydigital]

How can you possibly say the above when the process of negotiating trade agreements with EU countries once we are finally detached hasn't even begun.

All the above is, is urinating into the breeze...

It's just basic economics mate.
Do you think all the EU countries will be lining up to give us free trade with no concessions such as freedom of movement after all of this?

 

[roydo]

Hah, hardly a revolt against the establishment issue though is it

I dunno mate. I utterly fume in Homebase.

#thelightbulbrevolution

 

[Seanjd]

@Whistlin' Dixie im admiring your determination here, surely you can't go on like this?

 

[Jib in lad]

How could people fall for the lies.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars

 

[dandydan]

Please could you set out which laws set by the EU you so passionately disagree with and which ran contrary to our own?

I looked up all of the laws imposed by the EU here and thought they were all positive.

Stupid carbon reduction rules that drive up energy prices. Cited as one of the reasons the steel industry was unable to compete.

 

[Toffeelover]

Missed this earlier...What happened to democracy?

Y'know? The very same 'democracy' the EU supposedly afforded us?

Oh, that's right...

'kinell.

And STILL you wonder why your side lost? And you wonder who the 'fascists' are (Yes, I said the 'f' word first)

Back to yer sixth form debates, lad...



Here's the only FACT that matters - your side lost. Y'know? The same as when Everton win a match, when under the cosh for 90 mins?

The whistle's gone, mate.

Deal with it.



So I can be called a 'nutter' - without reproach - before I reply (almost) in kind, then? There's a pattern in all of these types of threads,

You' and the rest of the moderation team'd all would do well to notice it, instead of waiting for it to get to that stage.

I gave deadsoft the clue, mate, and he only seen the side that he wanted to see.

Oh, and I'm not playing the victim, I'm after a level playing field here...There's a 'blame game' going on, and as soon as you explain your reason(s) they'll find a way to bring racialism into it, in order to try to score points. It's desperation on a grandiose scale.

It's not on; and while it continues, I should be allowed to defend my stance by attacking theirs - they do it.




So much for the 'democracy-loving EU'...




*Thunderous, rapturing applause* (From a 45 y.o. 'youngster') Well said, sir.

Honestly, sometimes it's like trying to tell a teenager what's what...But we don't know what this new app does, and we don't take much interest in who simon cowell's palming off as the next beatles...

I never lived through a world war, but I've heard how hard it must've been...And people are whining about this alleged 'hardship' we're supposedly gonna suffer?

Ffs, most of these people want counselling if they forget their packed lunch these days. It's a miracle we ever survived to even get to this stage in our history...



But the EU gave us all those worker's rights that we've now lost...They were gonna crack down on all that business....

When were those rights lost exactly?

 

[dandydan]

How could people fall for the lies.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars

Has WW3 kicked off yet?

 

[Jib in lad]

Has WW3 kicked off yet?

No but you seem the type that would like it too.

 

[roydo]

How could people fall for the lies.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars

The article answers that. Utterly depressing.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Please could you set out which laws set by the EU you so passionately disagree with and which ran contrary to our own?

I looked up all of the laws imposed by the EU here and thought they were all positive.

Look at the post immediately below yours. Humorous or not, that's an imposition upon which we had no say, for starters.

However, you could do your own research. For example, look in here: https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/
Quote:
"It’s more meaningful to look at specific sectors and areas of law.
In agriculture, fisheries, external trade, and the environment, it’s fair to say that EU legislation and policy is indeed the main driver of UK law and policy, although the UK retains some freedom of action in these areas.
In other important areas—for example, welfare and social security, education, criminal law, family law and the NHS—the direct influence of the EU is far more limited
"An estimated 13% of Acts and Statutory Instrumentshave an EU influence, whereas that rises to 62% when EU regulations are included in addition to Acts and Statutory Instruments."

Try this as well: http://openeurope.org.uk/intelligence/britain-and-the-eu/top-100-eu-rules-cost-britain-33-3bn/
"Taking the regulations individually, the impact assessments show that Ministers signed off at least 26 of the top 100 EU-derived regulations, despite the IAs explicitly stating that the costs outweigh the estimated benefits. These regulations include the UK Temporary Agency Workers Directive and the Energy Performance of Buildings Directive."

Happy reading...

 

[Ratkiller]

How could people fall for the lies.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars

I don't think they did. Both sides were absolutely full of it.

Dodgy dave and Gideon were on the other side remember.

 

[Seanjd]

Look at the post immediately below yours. Humorous or not, that's an imposition upon which we had no say, for starters.

However, you could do your own research. For example, look in here: https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/
Quote:
"It’s more meaningful to look at specific sectors and areas of law.
In agriculture, fisheries, external trade, and the environment, it’s fair to say that EU legislation and policy is indeed the main driver of UK law and policy, although the UK retains some freedom of action in these areas.
In other important areas—for example, welfare and social security, education, criminal law, family law and the NHS—the direct influence of the EU is far more limited
"An estimated 13% of Acts and Statutory Instrumentshave an EU influence, whereas that rises to 62% when EU regulations are included in addition to Acts and Statutory Instruments."

Try this as well: http://openeurope.org.uk/intelligence/britain-and-the-eu/top-100-eu-rules-cost-britain-33-3bn/
"Taking the regulations individually, the impact assessments show that Ministers signed off at least 26 of the top 100 EU-derived regulations, despite the IAs explicitly stating that the costs outweigh the estimated benefits. These regulations include the UK Temporary Agency Workers Directive and the Energy Performance of Buildings Directive."

Happy reading...

For real? You voted out because you disagree with laws set by the eu, then when asked which you disagree with the best you can come up with is energy saving light bulbs? Oh my word.