Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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She,s trying poorly to carry out negotiations of which she is incapable of doing..
The Democratic vote of the people

The EU dont respect her; her own party dont respect her; the country doesn't respect her. Imagine having a dope like that leading negotiations for the future of your contry, that's be ridiculous....hold on.......
 
I agree totally. She was done up like a kipper by the grandees of her party.
I don't think I have seen anybody deteriorate before my very eyes due to the stresses and strains of being in post doing a seemingly impossible task.
Actually as I type this, Kenny Dalglish was ruined when he took over the RS as caretaker a short while back.

She's asking for the EU to respect the UK. They just dont respect her, that's the issue. They know she is the cats paw of a gang of swivel eyed flat earth professing bigots who want to turn the clock back to the nineteenth century.
 
Thick?
Mob?

Yeah?

I'm saying if you are surprised the EU have this position when it has literally always been the case that they'd have this position, then you're thick.

I'm not saying everyone who voted for Brexit is thick, but I'm saying the mob that just did it because "screw foreigners, RULE BRITANNIA" and so on are indeed thick as two short planks if they're somehow now stunned by this situation.
 
Cheap shot Bruce.
You have maybe kept up with my recent posts over my total disillusionment with the way that those who were to carry out the will of the majority have performed. I posted that I made a considered decision before I voted and was not part of a war mongering mob hell bent on removing immigrants from this country. For the record that was not a consideration of mine.
Yes, the whole thing is a mess but once again knock off the insults, it does not become you.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't ever call someone daft for voting the way they did. The campaign from both sides was incredibly poor and I dare say a great many people voted in ignorance of the issues they were being asked to vote upon. This has been a historic problem, with all stakeholders in this doing a poor job of engaging the public in just what our involvement with the EU involves. In some ways, the referendum has been beneficial as it has forced a lot out into the open, and I suspect many are much better informed now than they were when they voted.

What I struggle to understand is the sheer mental gymnastics some folk are performing when presented with clear evidence that they're wrong on a topic, and a steadfast refusal to update their opinions based upon new, and often better, information. That is something I can't ever idly accept, as an uninformed electorate undermines the very democracy so many claim to care so much about. If you look back over the tortured history of this thread, I suspect you can sense the sheer desperation with which people approach having to go over the same thing for the umpteenth time, correcting the same mistakes again and again and again.

In much of politics you can disagree on how to skin the cat, yet agree that the cat needs skinning, but we're way beyond that on Brexit imo, and we're having folk disputing that the cat has four legs.
 
Cheap shot Bruce.
You have maybe kept up with my recent posts over my total disillusionment with the way that those who were to carry out the will of the majority have performed. I posted that I made a considered decision before I voted and was not part of a war mongering mob hell bent on removing immigrants from this country. For the record that was not a consideration of mine.
Yes, the whole thing is a mess but once again knock off the insults, it does not become you.

Then the insult isn't about you, is it?

As said, not everyone who voted for Brexit is thick - I may disagree with them and believe they got it badly wrong, but that doesn't necessarily mean thick.

But many of those who did are.
 
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More doom and gloom from you - the New Zealand ambassador is waiting to set trade deals up ..... Tariff free.
Funny you mention them, as New Zealand are one of the countries who’ve objected to our WTO schedules and have also opened talks with the EU about an FTA that they’ve said will hopefully be concluded only months after we’ve actually left.

More pesky facts from me. Enjoy ‘em.
 
Cheap shot Bruce.
You have maybe kept up with my recent posts over my total disillusionment with the way that those who were to carry out the will of the majority have performed. I posted that I made a considered decision before I voted and was not part of a war mongering mob hell bent on removing immigrants from this country. For the record that was not a consideration of mine.
Yes, the whole thing is a mess but once again knock off the insults, it does not become you.

Mate I certainly don’t try and insult people and I hope I haven’t , the majority voted leave and for a host of reasons some of which I can understand even if i don’t agree .

For me the frustration over this and particularly in this thread for example is somebody says “we can just do x” , it’s pointed out that’s not an option and the reasons why but in reply they simply repeat it “we can just do x”. again it’s pointed out and then simply don’t answer or say that leave won, get over it . Now I’ll be honest that’s incredibly frustrating.

It’s the same from the politicians , it’s gone from it’ll be milk and honey and the easiest deal ever to , yes it’ll be difficult at first and nobody said it’d be easy . The whole thing is just the craziest situation I’ve ever encountered, people flick flak and twist to avoid the acceptance of the situation we’re in . We are where we are I get that but it doesn’t mean it’s great , it’s like Everton when we’re rubbish I try and avoid talking about us and don’t watch the match again when I’m home I don’t pretend I enjoyed watching us get battered .
 
For what it's worth, I wouldn't ever call someone daft for voting the way they did. The campaign from both sides was incredibly poor and I dare say a great many people voted in ignorance of the issues they were being asked to vote upon. This has been a historic problem, with all stakeholders in this doing a poor job of engaging the public in just what our involvement with the EU involves. In some ways, the referendum has been beneficial as it has forced a lot out into the open, and I suspect many are much better informed now than they were when they voted.

What I struggle to understand is the sheer mental gymnastics some folk are performing when presented with clear evidence that they're wrong on a topic, and a steadfast refusal to update their opinions based upon new, and often better, information. That is something I can't ever idly accept, as an uninformed electorate undermines the very democracy so many claim to care so much about. If you look back over the tortured history of this thread, I suspect you can sense the sheer desperation with which people approach having to go over the same thing for the umpteenth time, correcting the same mistakes again and again and again.

In much of politics you can disagree on how to skin the cat, yet agree that the cat needs skinning, but we're way beyond that on Brexit imo, and we're having folk disputing that the cat has four legs.
We agree on something then.
I'll be the first to admit that there would be mass disruption when we left, and I'm almost scared to say there would be pain, but I can only reiterate that I thought we had the leaders in public office to mitigate that pain and strike a meaningful deal when leaving.
So back to my continuing theme, politicians from here on can go and whistle for my vote.
 
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