Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

The genie has been let out of the bottle, if Leave get a decent turnout and remain only just win, then within 10 years we will leave anyway.....

 

[peteblue]

You won't have control regardless.

At least my vote will count......

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

The genie has been let out of the bottle, if Leave get a decent turnout and remain only just win, then within 10 years we will leave anyway.....

There's dissatisfaction growing all over the EU mate, as you well know. If we're not the first, someone else soon will be...

 

[Tubey]

The genie has been let out of the bottle, if Leave get a decent turnout and remain only just win, then within 10 years we will leave anyway.....

Nope.

Only reason we have a referendum now is because of a weak Cameron. We won't see another one for a good 30 years plus.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And thats the issue, you have a perception that people who vote leave are some kind of freaky bigots who only want England for the English, I support migration, its helped mould the country and its been very helpful over the years, im not against migration, im against some clown in Brussels telling US who and how many people we can allow in our country and forcing people onto us.

That isn't really what happens though is it? It's like Cameron phones you up tonight and says "Goat, I'm sending you to Monte Carlo to stroke Moutinho's hair. Yeah I know there's a French bloke that does it already, but by god you'll do it for the sheer love of the man..."

The reality is that people freely choose to move somewhere to try and better their lives, just as anyone ever moves home.

 

[Tubey]

It will depend on the result, if the vote is out I doubt if the leave campaign will want him negotiating the exit deal, if it is close they will agitate for a leadership challenge.
If the stay campaign win comfortably then he is safe.

I think he's gone regardless. The right wing backbenchers will want revenge, and his majority isn't good enough.

Snap election probable inside six months I reckon.

 

[dandydan]

Think both sides have done that.

Only one side has been calling the other uneducated racists. And the same people will remember that when Corbyn asks for their votes.
He could have made a real statement if he stuck to his principles and came out for leave but now he has to persuade people he is their champion against Tories, bankers and corporations.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

The reality is that people freely choose to move somewhere to try and better their lives, just as anyone ever moves home.

Not always the case, is it?

People being forced out of their homes because they can't afford their mortgages, can't pay their rent etc etc...Not always done 'freely', Bruce.

 

[dandydan]

I think he's gone regardless. The right wing backbenchers will want revenge, and his majority isn't good enough.

Snap election probable inside six months I reckon.

Cameron and Osborne are finished, the only question is wether they will get a cushy number in Brussells.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I think he's gone regardless. The right wing backbenchers will want revenge, and his majority isn't good enough.

Snap election probable inside six months I reckon.

Leadership election?

 

[Brennan]

Also, laughing at this idea the vote would be rigged by rubbing out pencil marks. If the vote was going to be fixed they would do something far less time consuming than individually removing crosses on ballot papers.

More tin foil hat nonsense from the leave camp.

 

[Tubey]

Leadership election?

No, General Election. A Cameron resignation based on not being able to secure the numbers in the Commons would call for it. The Tories would have to select a leader.

 

[peteblue]

I get what you're saying Pete, but there'll be that much in-fighting in the tory party that they'll have too much on their plate.

Labour won't as they won't get the backing within their NEC, they'll be too concerned with regaining the trust of those who voted SNP, plus they're majority pro-EU anyway, and the liberals...Say n'more.

I can't see UKIP making swathing gains, another referendum in their manifesto from them or not.

The EU will bollox things up further, though.

Everything that the EU has been accused of will come to pass and while I agree that Labour will never do anything, concern will build and the Tories will eventually get their act together again and another vote will come.....it's inevitable unless the EU change for the better but we know that they won't .........

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Not always the case, is it?

People being forced out of their homes because they can't afford their mortgages, can't pay their rent etc etc...Not always done 'freely', Bruce.

Ok, in 99.9% of cases where people move homes

 

[anjelikaferrett]

As opposed to Tony Blair, alistair Campbell, David Cameron, George Osborne, George soros, Goldman Sachs, Lehman bros. And many others of such ilk.

I think that's part of the issue- there are no "party" lines. Even in the media-The S*n says leave, The Mail says stay. I hate them both so no help there.