Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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As we sit around our binfires, eating rats, and the likes of JRM have long left after selling off the nations wealth - at least we'd be able to tell our kids that we stopped the EU selling us bendy bananas.
 
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Even as one who voted to stay, my understanding is the subject of aviation is a massive red herring.

The CAA control over 60% of the air routes across the Atlantic to the US that must be used by EU countries. They say we cant fly to Spain? The EU cant really fly to New York.

It’s not a red herring though, a no deal Brexit would see us fall out of our agreements on aviation. Would it be resolved after the fact? Yes, undoubtedly, but if we carry out Raabs threat to go back on the settlement agreement payment, will the EU be falling over themselves to resolve it amicably?

It’s been brought up as one of numerous examples of what a no deal Brexit would bring with it. As it’s not simply about WTO trade terms, it’s about hundreds of separate agreements that would all end on the same day, and would all need resolution.

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86940

No deal would put this country back decades, we’d have zero trade agreements the day after we left. It’s utterly bonkers to suggest that it’s a route we should even be contemplating. Don’t forget the Govts own stats on its Economic impact either.

 
And in a rather cruel irony, it will hit those who want it most of all.
There’s a real irony in the fact that the supposed ‘Liberal elite’ are those who are the most vociferous in their stance on the inevitably disastrous no deal Brexit, and not through self interest but in the prime interests of those who are already squeezed to the limit financially. Only many of those in that segment are basically stood there spitting in their face.
 
There’s a real irony in the fact that the supposed ‘Liberal elite’ are those who are the most vociferous in their stance on the inevitably disastrous no deal Brexit, and not through self interest but in the prime interests of those who are already squeezed to the limit financially. Only many of those in that segment are basically stood there spitting in their face.

"Many", but not "most". Leave won because of the votes of those already retired or who will retire imminently; they are the people who gained most from the EU and who will lose the least by leaving.
 
"Many", but not "most". Leave won because of the votes of those already retired or who will retire imminently; they are the people who gained most from the EU and who will lose the least by leaving.

I have been retired for 20 years and I would love you to tell me what I have 'gained' from the EU. Everything I have is what I worked my proverbial's off for. I have no reason to be grateful to the EU.
I would agree with a statement that 'young people' have no cause to be thankful to the EU given the disgraceful situation of youth unemployment in several EU member states.
 
I have been retired for 20 years and I would love you to tell me what I have 'gained' from the EU. Everything I have is what I worked my proverbial's off for. I have no reason to be grateful to the EU.
I would agree with a statement that 'young people' have no cause to be thankful to the EU given the disgraceful situation of youth unemployment in several EU member states.

You keep trotting that out, but that has nothing to do with being a member of the EU.
 
I have been retired for 20 years and I would love you to tell me what I have 'gained' from the EU. Everything I have is what I worked my proverbial's off for. I have no reason to be grateful to the EU.
I would agree with a statement that 'young people' have no cause to be thankful to the EU given the disgraceful situation of youth unemployment in several EU member states.

Well, if you have retired twenty years ago then you have spent at least twenty years of your working life in a free trade area (the old EEC).

Now that you have retired, and assuming you voted Leave, you've denied the people who are actually working now the chance to do the same and instead they will have to deal with the consequences of your vote.
 
Well, if you have retired twenty years ago then you have spent at least twenty years of your working life in a free trade area (the old EEC).

Now that you have retired, and assuming you voted Leave, you've denied the people who are actually working now the chance to do the same and instead they will have to deal with the consequences of your vote.

And I spent the 20 years before that in a country that traded with the world and we will do so again. In 10 years time, the EU will have either imploded or will have morphed into the dictatorship to which it is heading. Either way, even remainers will look back and thank us for voting out.
 
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