Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Ruairi77 said:
Probably an out of touch question but does May not win a vote of no confidence?
With the likes of airbus threaten to move jobs, will economics not dictate policy and a majority of conservatives will swing behind a soft Brexit?
She's a weak leader but she probably has more support than the hard brexit Tories have. They also know that if they force a GE, there's a huge chance they'll be on the opposition benches so that wont happen.
It seems like they are handing May the chance to reshape her cabinet to suit a soft Brexit.
I can't see what their plan is, unless hard brexit has more support among tories.
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I don't think she does win one automatically, no. The difference between this and the 2016 revolt against Corbyn is that she (or more accurately they) have to have a majority in Parliament to do anything; if the ERG forces a vote (and they have around fifty MPs) then they can block the Government whenever they want. The only alternative is that someone else gets appointed as PM who has the confidence of enough MPs, which means the Tory/DUP axis of weasels, which means has the backing of the ERG.

Ironically this is a problem that Corbyn himself would have faced if he'd won, though the Blairites in the PLP are that dumb that they never realised this.
 
Ruairi77 said:
Probably an out of touch question but does May not win a vote of no confidence?
With the likes of airbus threaten to move jobs, will economics not dictate policy and a majority of conservatives will swing behind a soft Brexit?
She's a weak leader but she probably has more support than the hard brexit Tories have. They also know that if they force a GE, there's a huge chance they'll be on the opposition benches so that wont happen.
It seems like they are handing May the chance to reshape her cabinet to suit a soft Brexit.
I can't see what their plan is, unless hard brexit has more support among tories.
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Wouldn't claim any special insight but hard Brexit is dead and buried now isn't it? It would have needed a serious Statesman to drive that through, and there aren't any left. Instead, Sir Humphrey and his mandarins have had Boris and Co on toast and the direction of travel is now back to reality. What that means for a soft Brexit I don't know, but as little change as possible with some suitable face-saving mechanisms in place is probably most people's choice.
 
tsubaki said:
have you been to a university lately?
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With respect, that doesn't answer my question. There is a cost to the university per student to deliver a degree program. What we have now is the student paying a large share of that cost versus the tax payer. What I was asking is whether the cost itself had risen.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
With respect, that doesn't answer my question. There is a cost to the university per student to deliver a degree program. What we have now is the student paying a large share of that cost versus the tax payer. What I was asking is whether the cost itself had risen.
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Well most universities have expanded, tarted up their facilities and increased (markedly in some cases) the pay of their senior management so I'd say the overall cost of an individual going to Unversity has gone up quite a bit even though there are more of them.

Also I would challenge this notion that the student pays a large share of that cost; they agree to pay it but the people on the hook until they do are the SLC, which of course means the state.
 
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