Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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There's another 100 or so pages missing........
a reported vote of no confidence might go in against May......
On a deal the EU will reject or make even weaker.........
Corbyn is not bothered he just wants power.......
it's a polictical mess.....
 
@Bruce Wayne

With several issues besides the apparent conflict with WTO rules below, Friday looks to have been a Tory party exercise, not an attempt to resolve the Nation's future:


Point 24.

The problem with this solution however is that goods which are declaredon importation as “UK destination” then need to tracked down thesupply chain in order to make sure that they really do end up at a UK consumer. This entails the need for a tracking mechanism in order to track individual goods down supply chains, imposing costs on businesses importing goods for UK consumption and upon their customers who sellon the imported goods in turn. It is most unlikely in any event that the EU would be satisfied that such a system would be sufficient to prevent leakage of goods into the EU. But more fundamentally, it would appear that this system is vulnerable to a successful challenge that it breaches the national treatment principle in GATT Art. III. This is one of the most fundamental principles of the WTO system. WTO Members are not allowed to impose burdens on imported goods (apart from permissible tariffs levied at the point of importation) which treat those goods less favourably than nationally produced goods. The obligation to subject goods imported from WTO Members to burdensome tracking obligations to which nationally produced goods are not subject would appear to besuch a prohibited measure under GATT Art. III



It's a bizarre situation whereby everyone knows full well that integration, cooperation and so on are good things, yet they're trying to fudge them so that we appear to be not integrating or cooperating. It's a bit like the immigration fiasco, as the evidence is quite clear, yet rather than shout that evidence from the rooftop, they fudge and balls about about reducing it to appeal to the ignorant.
 
No, not in my opinion, it’s a simple fact.
The fact that weakens a few posters argument that brexiteers did not know what they were voting for ........
particularly you........
It looks like we will crash out on WTO terms now.......
Or a new Tory PM or a GE or the EU will reject the latest deal when we see it in its entirety.....
 
The fact that weakens a few posters argument that brexiteers did not know what they were voting for ........
How does the fact that they didn’t weaken their argument? lol

They knowingly voted to leave the EU, that’s it. They had no idea what the future beyond that would look like, as no-one in the debate who was pro Brexit had the authority to define it. You voted for an ideology mate.
 
How does the fact that they didn’t weaken their argument? lol

They knowingly voted to leave the EU, that’s it. They had no idea what the future beyond that would look like, as no-one in the debate who was pro Brexit had the authority to define it. You voted for an ideology mate.

Populism is defined by being as vague as possible. The lack of any clear 'manifesto' for what Brexit would look like, how it would work, the rationale behind it, the risks involved etc. has all been excused away as not wanting to weaken our negotiating position, when the reality is that people pushing for this have absolutely no idea. The maddening thing is that when people do some of the above spadework and find things aren't quite as rosy, they're branded as traitors who are blocking our path to the promised land.
 
Populism is defined by being as vague as possible. The lack of any clear 'manifesto' for what Brexit would look like, how it would work, the rationale behind it, the risks involved etc. has all been excused away as not wanting to weaken our negotiating position, when the reality is that people pushing for this have absolutely no idea. The maddening thing is that when people do some of the above spadework and find things aren't quite as rosy, they're branded as traitors who are blocking our path to the promised land.
Banks and Wigmore told the CSC the other week that they were advised early on, that referendums aren’t won with facts, they’re won with emotion. So they deliberately made their campaign emotive and went for the lowest common denominator.
 
How does the fact that they didn’t weaken their argument? lol

They knowingly voted to leave the EU, that’s it. They had no idea what the future beyond that would look like, as no-one in the debate who was pro Brexit had the authority to define it. You voted for an ideology mate.
1,4 million people randomly voted OUT then according to your illogical argument.....
 
Banks and Wigmore told the CSC the other week that they were advised early on, that referendums aren’t won with facts, they’re won with emotion. So they deliberately made their campaign emotive and went for the lowest common denominator.
So emotionally you lost tough.......
How many remainers got it wrong then in the voting booth.........
 
Banks and Wigmore told the CSC the other week that they were advised early on, that referendums aren’t won with facts, they’re won with emotion. So they deliberately made their campaign emotive and went for the lowest common denominator.
The only e motion is what you and I send down our toilets, and that's what you talking by the way....
 
Leave how? A cliff edge no deal? The Norway or Switzerland model? Or a bespoke agreement that May has finally put forward 2 years later?

You had no idea what it’d look like and therefore whether it was likely to be any good or not. You went for the out decision without knowing what the alternative actually was.

Out means out 17.m etc etc...

And you had no idea what the EU would look like, and indeed still don’t........
 
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