Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
Let me try again then ......what frightens you about not being a member of the EU ?......
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Personally aside from the loss of free movement should I decide to bail out of the U.K., not much.

I’ll be worse off, by how much will depend on the manner of our exit, but it’ll definitely affect my income, it already has to a degree. However, financially I’m fortunate so in terms of a tangible difference to my existence everything is relative.

My prime concern is for those who are already struggling to survive. A further squeeze on their disposable income, due to a further devaluation in our currency together with any potential tariffs driving inflation, would be impossible for many to swallow.

The fabled ‘project fear’ of our largely foreign owned manufacturing base, either slowly winding back their U.K. facilities or relocating them over time, and new ones failing to choose the U.K. for their base, due to our absence from the single market and our exit from the customs union causing huge supply chain issues. All of that is a threat to jobs, in both the factories and their supply chains, most of which are in areas that are already at least partly deprived.

We’re a consumer lead economy that’s been built in recent years on a mountain of personal debt, and as soon as consumer confidence takes a dip and / or lenders become more pragmatic and draw their horns in, we’re in the proverbial.

Whichever route we end up taking, once out we’ll 100% go backwards in terms of our economy, how far will depend on the deal (or lack of one).

And for what? blue passports (made in France) and some errrm fish.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Personally aside from the loss of free movement should I decide to bail out of the U.K., not much.

I’ll be worse off, by how much will depend on the manner of our exit, but it’ll definitely affect my income, it already has to a degree. However, financially I’m fortunate so in terms of a tangible difference to my existence everything is relative.

My prime concern is for those who are already struggling to survive. A further squeeze on their disposable income, due to a further devaluation in our currency together with any potential tariffs driving inflation, would be impossible for many to swallow.

The fabled ‘project fear’ of our largely foreign owned manufacturing base, either slowly winding back their U.K. facilities or relocating them over time, and new ones failing to choose the U.K. for their base, due to our absence from the single market and our exit from the customs union causing huge supply chain issues. All of that is a threat to jobs, in both the factories and their supply chains, most of which are in areas that are already at least partly deprived.

We’re a consumer lead economy that’s been built in recent years on a mountain of personal debt, and as soon as consumer confidence takes a dip and / or lenders become more pragmatic and draw their horns in, we’re in the proverbial.

Whichever route we end up taking, once out we’ll 100% go backwards in terms of our economy, how far will depend on the deal (or lack of one).

And for what? blue passports (made in France) and some errrm fish.
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I eat a lot of Fish it will taste nicer when we get our fishing industry back of the EU.....
 
roydo said:
Correct. Thanks for that.

And by extension, everyone who voted out must accept the resulting picture that will be negotiated by our democratic representatives. Making our own rules and all that.
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Yes it must be simple to realise when the EU stop messing around, and bullying they will lose more than us if it goes to WTO trade....
a deal will be done Remainers won't like it , and some brexiteers won't like it , but as long as it is a giant step away from those frauds I will be happy.....
 
Joey66 said:
Yes it must be simple to realise when the EU stop messing around, and bullying they will lose more than us if it goes to WTO trade....
a deal will be done Remainers won't like it , and some brexiteers won't like it , but as long as it is a giant step away from those frauds I will be happy.....
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You may well be Joe, and fair play for accepting the point I made. But I fear many who voted Out will not exercise the restraint and respect for our democratic process as you do.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Well that’ll make the whole thing worthwhile then mate.
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Just read a fantastic quote from a currently high profile person in charge of a football team in Russia.

He said he was struck by the split between young people "who want to travel the world" and an older generation "pining for something that isnt there anymore"

His football team has young players with family links to Portugal, St Vincent, Nigeria, Jamaica and Ireland. Plus a few others to boot.

Made me think anyrate, and not for the first time.
 
roydo said:
You may well be Joe, and fair play for accepting the point I made. But I fear many who voted Out will not exercise the restraint and respect for our democratic process as you do.
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It has to be pragmatic every divorce starts bitter then settles down, but the EU are bullies, and we are not a small economic country who will bend over backwards for them....
 
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