Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Ruairi77 said:
oh come on. you think the UK leaving the EU guarantees there will be a united states of Europe controlled by Germany?
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Of course it does - none of the many problems the EU is facing, especially the immigration one, can be solved without further unification. I am not sure why this should be a surprise either given that ever closer union is such a prominent thing in the way the EU operates.
 
tsubaki said:
Of course it does - none of the many problems the EU is facing, especially the immigration one, can be solved without further unification. I am not sure why this should be a surprise either given that ever closer union is such a prominent thing in the way the EU operates.
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There are none so blind as those that will not see.......
 
peteblue said:
It would still happen, we would just be outvoted, and we would be stuck in it.......
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Nope - for a start none of what you claimed would happen did happen while we were in, nor could they when we are the biggest European NATO military power, the City was the financial centre of the EU and while we have a much more active foreign policy than the rest of Europe does combined.

All Brexit does, or rather the Brexit that these clowns will come up with, is wreck all of that.
 
Anyway, it looks like the Tory rebellion is over and May will win her vote. Once she called their bluff and refused to negotiate it was over. Some may still vote against her, then suffer before the next election, but there are enough Labour MP’s who believe in the vote by the people to carry it through. If Corbyn had any sense, and he doesn’t, he would tell his party to vote with the Government. Either way May is safe.......
 
tsubaki said:
Nope - for a start none of what you claimed would happen did happen while we were in, nor could they when we are the biggest European NATO military power, the City was the financial centre of the EU and while we have a much more active foreign policy than the rest of Europe does combined.

All Brexit does, or rather the Brexit that these clowns will come up with, is wreck all of that.
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I’m glad you replay my comments regarding Defence, Financial strength and Foreign relations soft power, but the EU will change it’s voting criteria to be majority vote, it’s already happening. In respect of what I claimed would happen, it already is, step by step......we couldn’t stop it........
 
Is it just me or is anyone else getting fed up with Barnier telling us daily what cannot happen and going on about ‘magic solutions’. Today it is Defence and Security, having done the Galileo project to death, and telling us that unless we are in the EU there will be no cooperation etc etc. Obviously he can’t believe this stuff he keeps spouting, but he seems to pick up all the stuff that the EU are weak on, and the U.K. are strong on, then telling us how we will suffer. I’m sure in his ‘big boys book of negotiating’ that this makes sense, but his every utterance just makes a hard Brexit more certain........
 
I see Barnier is flying the French flag again.....

‘Britain could access the European Union's Galileo satellite navigation system after Brexit but will no longer be able to work on developing the project, the bloc's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier said on Tuesday.’

So we can pay, provide base stations, provide the technology that we already have, and they will let us use it but cut all future U.K. technical development business from the programme, and give it to France. They know that if we walk away, Galileo is doomed or at least delayed. Our Space companies need to ensure they have work to retain technical competence, so we should just walk away, build our own and let Galileo do whatever it can do. Whenever Barnier offers us something, you just know that it means they are in the crap.......
 
tsubaki said:
Of course it does - none of the many problems the EU is facing, especially the immigration one, can be solved without further unification. I am not sure why this should be a surprise either given that ever closer union is such a prominent thing in the way the EU operates.
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I actually think Brexit put the skids on a United States of Europe scenario. There isn’t the appetite for it. Plenty of other countries would vote out if they felt their sovereignty was being eroded.
 
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