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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The question was name two reasons why our own parliament would not respect our rights.....
Because they're knob heads?
orchard
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True, and that's the realm of the judiciary, so a poor question. The knob heads will define those rights and examples of recent broad/vague legislation and use of semantics are legion. It would be completely reckless to discard our current rights before examining alternatives. If we just trust the current excuse for a cabinet to scribble the new ones down on the back of a fag packet with some corporate lobbyists I fear for those without means and the subsequent harmony of the nation.
Hopefully the Lords will keep the arrogant nouveau's and their greedy short-termism in check.
That's kind of it at the moment isn't it? We're asked to trust Davis et al to do stuff, when there's no real evidence to support their opinions, and certainly no evidence that their bravado has any basis to it.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Fair enough, a well researched and argued post.......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I’m assuming this is a wind up.......
gonetomorrow
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Brexit it is. So be it.
Never mind this customs union fudge.
Never mind this customs union fudge.
It seems like an absolute age since the like of Johnson, Duncan Smith, Rees Mogg et al were spouting 'they need us more than we need them'.
Brexit: Theresa May ‘pleading’ with EU for access to single market, Michel Barnier says
EU chief Brexit negotiator says UK is more dependent on EU for trade than vice-versa
Theresa May has been reduced to “pleading” with the EU to give British firms access to sell services into the single market after Brexit without having to follow European law, the EU’s chief negotiator has said.
Speaking in Sofia on Thursday Michel Barnier said Britain would face new border checks and disruption from leaving the bloc, and that the UK was more dependent on Europe for trade than vice-versa.
In a speech Mr Barnier rejected Theresa May’s call for continued trade in services between Britain and the EU “based on the UK and EU maintaining the same regulatory outcomes over time”.
No 10 warned about Brexit border plan by head of NI civil service
“I can perfectly see the UK's logic and interest in pleading for a system of ‘mutual recognition’ and ‘reciprocal regulatory equivalence’,” Mr Barnier said at a finance conference in the Bulgarian capital. “This is, indeed, what the single market achieves!”
“‘Everything must change so that everything can stay the same’, to paraphrase Lampedusa. But this will not work. The UK has decided to withdraw from the Union. It wants to be sovereign and be able to set its own rulebook, to have its own supervision and enforcement system.
“In doing so, the UK will move away from EU rules. It will not accept common EU supervision and enforcement tools. These are precisely the essential building blocks of our post-crisis financial regulation. They ensure that the internal market can exist and function correctly.
‘Everything must change so that everything can stay the same’, to paraphrase Lampedusa. But this will not work.
Michel Barnier, EU chief Brexit negotiator
“The EU understands that the UK does not want to become a 'rule-taker'. But the UK also needs to understand that the EU cannot accept mutual market access without the common safeguards that underpin it.”
Mr Barnier added that relying on Britain to regulate services sold into EU markets was “not something that any country in the world would accept”. He described Brexit as “a lose-lose situation”, telling his audience: “I do not see added value in Brexit and so far, nobody has shown us any.”
“Outside of the customs union and the single market, there can be no frictionless trade. Businesses will be faced with non-tariff barriers and border checks that do not exist today,” the chief negotiator warned.
Allowing British firms to sell services into the EU is crucial for the UK because around 80 per cent of the British economy comes from providing services, with about 43 per cent of British exports heading to the EU in 2016. The Government has said it want any trade deal with the EU to cover services.
Speaking at the same event Mr Barnier said the cost of Brexit “will be substantially higher for the UK than for the EU”, noting that in terms of “trade dependency” the EU27 accounts for around 50 per cent of UK export and imports, while the UK market accounts for 7 per cent of EU exports and 4 per cent of imports.
Theresa May has asked for the EU and UK to mutually recognise each others' rules and regulations as adequate (AP)
The Brussels Brexit chief also brushed away claims by British commentators that European businesses "desperately needs the City of London" for finance. He cited research by the European Central Bank that any problem caused by losing access to London's banks "appears limited" and said the claim was "not what we hear from market participants, and is not the analysis that we have made ourselves".
In her Mansion House speech last month Ms May called for a “comprehensive system of mutual recognition” where both blocs pledged to keep their regulations equivalent to one another to facilitate trade. She said that under such a system “UK law may not necessarily be identical to EU law, but it should achieve the same outcomes”.
The Prime Minister proposed the approach in the hope that the EU would give Britain greater market access despite its departure from the single market.
David Davis on Wednesday also told a committee of MPs that he believed such a system of “mutual recognition” could underpin the solution to the Northern Ireland border.
The prime minister's Brexit red lines – leaving the single market, customs union, jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and refusing to keep free movement – have however limited the closeness of the future economic trading relationship with the EU. Mr Barnier has previously said such an approach is only compatible with a free trade agreement similar to that the EU has with Japan, a country on the other side of the world".
Brexit: Theresa May ‘pleading’ with EU for access to single market, Michel Barnier says
EU chief Brexit negotiator says UK is more dependent on EU for trade than vice-versa
- Jon Stone Europe Correspondent
- @joncstone
- Thursday 26 April 2018 18:27 BST
Theresa May has been reduced to “pleading” with the EU to give British firms access to sell services into the single market after Brexit without having to follow European law, the EU’s chief negotiator has said.
Speaking in Sofia on Thursday Michel Barnier said Britain would face new border checks and disruption from leaving the bloc, and that the UK was more dependent on Europe for trade than vice-versa.
In a speech Mr Barnier rejected Theresa May’s call for continued trade in services between Britain and the EU “based on the UK and EU maintaining the same regulatory outcomes over time”.
No 10 warned about Brexit border plan by head of NI civil service
“I can perfectly see the UK's logic and interest in pleading for a system of ‘mutual recognition’ and ‘reciprocal regulatory equivalence’,” Mr Barnier said at a finance conference in the Bulgarian capital. “This is, indeed, what the single market achieves!”
“‘Everything must change so that everything can stay the same’, to paraphrase Lampedusa. But this will not work. The UK has decided to withdraw from the Union. It wants to be sovereign and be able to set its own rulebook, to have its own supervision and enforcement system.
“In doing so, the UK will move away from EU rules. It will not accept common EU supervision and enforcement tools. These are precisely the essential building blocks of our post-crisis financial regulation. They ensure that the internal market can exist and function correctly.
‘Everything must change so that everything can stay the same’, to paraphrase Lampedusa. But this will not work.
Michel Barnier, EU chief Brexit negotiator
“The EU understands that the UK does not want to become a 'rule-taker'. But the UK also needs to understand that the EU cannot accept mutual market access without the common safeguards that underpin it.”
Mr Barnier added that relying on Britain to regulate services sold into EU markets was “not something that any country in the world would accept”. He described Brexit as “a lose-lose situation”, telling his audience: “I do not see added value in Brexit and so far, nobody has shown us any.”
“Outside of the customs union and the single market, there can be no frictionless trade. Businesses will be faced with non-tariff barriers and border checks that do not exist today,” the chief negotiator warned.
Allowing British firms to sell services into the EU is crucial for the UK because around 80 per cent of the British economy comes from providing services, with about 43 per cent of British exports heading to the EU in 2016. The Government has said it want any trade deal with the EU to cover services.
Speaking at the same event Mr Barnier said the cost of Brexit “will be substantially higher for the UK than for the EU”, noting that in terms of “trade dependency” the EU27 accounts for around 50 per cent of UK export and imports, while the UK market accounts for 7 per cent of EU exports and 4 per cent of imports.
Theresa May has asked for the EU and UK to mutually recognise each others' rules and regulations as adequate (AP)
The Brussels Brexit chief also brushed away claims by British commentators that European businesses "desperately needs the City of London" for finance. He cited research by the European Central Bank that any problem caused by losing access to London's banks "appears limited" and said the claim was "not what we hear from market participants, and is not the analysis that we have made ourselves".
In her Mansion House speech last month Ms May called for a “comprehensive system of mutual recognition” where both blocs pledged to keep their regulations equivalent to one another to facilitate trade. She said that under such a system “UK law may not necessarily be identical to EU law, but it should achieve the same outcomes”.
The Prime Minister proposed the approach in the hope that the EU would give Britain greater market access despite its departure from the single market.
David Davis on Wednesday also told a committee of MPs that he believed such a system of “mutual recognition” could underpin the solution to the Northern Ireland border.
The prime minister's Brexit red lines – leaving the single market, customs union, jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and refusing to keep free movement – have however limited the closeness of the future economic trading relationship with the EU. Mr Barnier has previously said such an approach is only compatible with a free trade agreement similar to that the EU has with Japan, a country on the other side of the world".
Gouldy
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You must be new here x
orchard
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Today’s judgment means the Government will now have to amend this part of the Investigatory Powers Act so that it no longer breaches people’s rights. The Court has given ministers until Thursday 1 November 2018 to do so (par. 183).
Gouldy
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...immigration-free-movement-offer-a8326101.html
Yeahhhh taking control of our borderZ!!
(Literally, what was the point of voting for Brexit??????)
Yeahhhh taking control of our borderZ!!
(Literally, what was the point of voting for Brexit??????)
Old Blue 2
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You must be new here x
Davis has got the hump because someone else is taking over from his incompetent 'negotiations'.
Brexit
Davis under pressure to disown criticism of civil service chief on Brexit
Minister reported to have told PM he would resign if she did not sideline Whitehall mandarin
Rajeev Syal
Sun 29 Apr 2018 12.53 BST Last modified on Sun 29 Apr 2018 13.13 BST
Brexit
Davis under pressure to disown criticism of civil service chief on Brexit
Minister reported to have told PM he would resign if she did not sideline Whitehall mandarin
Rajeev Syal
Sun 29 Apr 2018 12.53 BST Last modified on Sun 29 Apr 2018 13.13 BST
David Davis leaves 10 Downing Street last week. Photograph: Adrian Dennis/AFP/Getty Images
David Davis is facing demands from the senior civil servants’ union to disown claims that he has threatened to resign unless Theresa May sidelines Whitehall’s most senior Brexit mandarin.
It follows reports in the Sunday Times claiming that the Brexit secretary had told the prime minister he would step down unless the No 10 adviser Oliver Robbins was ignored in favour of ministers.
May faces a tense Brexit inner cabinet meeting on Wednesday, when she is expected to put forward a plan, backed by Robbins, to create a customs partnership with the EU.
Q&A
Brexit phrasebook: what is the customs union?
EU members (plus Turkey, Andorra, Monaco and San Marino) trade without customs duties, taxes or tariffs between themselves, and charge the same tariffs on imports from outside the EU. Customs union members cannot negotiate their own trade deals outside the EU, which is why leaving it – while hopefully negotiating a bespoke arrangement – has been one of the government’s Brexit goals. See our full Brexit phrasebook.
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Attacks upon Robbins in the media have provoked a furious response from civil servants. Dave Penman, the head of the FDA union, said: “Is there a more despicable form of political cowardice than to allow anonymous briefings in your name to effectively call for a civil servant to be sacked?
“Civil servants advise, ministers decide. Politicians of all stripes know this. If David Davis leaves these comments from a ‘close ally’ out there unchallenged, it ultimately suggests that he supports them but isn’t brave enough to say so publicly”.
Sir Jeremy Heywood, the cabinet secretary, also took the unusual step of tweeting about criticisms of Robbins. After May’s close aide Gavin Barwell retweeted a statement from the chief whip, Julian Smith, saying “Attacking ind civil servants is deeply unfair”, Heywood wrote:
Sir Jeremy Heywood
✔ @HeadUKCivServ
Thanks for your support. The Civil Service will always be true to its values - honesty, integrity, impartiality and objectivity.
Gavin Barwell
✔ @GavinBarwell
This... https://twitter.com/JulianSmithUK/status/990504585067487232 …
10:33 AM - Apr 29, 2018
Under Robbins’ plan, the UK would collect import tariffs on behalf of Brussels, while being free to set its own duties for goods bound for the UK. Pro-Brexit Conservatives have described the plan as unworkable and say it will allow Brussels to dictate UK trade policy.
According to the Sunday Times, Davis has told the prime minister to ignore Robbins in favour of her ministers.
Robbins, tipped as a future cabinet secretary, was moved from Davis’s Brexit department into No 10 last year as May sought to take greater control over the process.
A former minister told the Sunday Times that Tory backbenchers could be willing to oust May if she does not stop listening to her adviser on the customs partnership plan.
“The prime minister would be extraordinarily unwise to take Robbins’ advice on this,” they told the paper. “There will be a very swift and very violent reaction. It will put the prime minister in personal peril.”
The Brexiter business group Leave Means Leave has called for Robbins to be sacked and “replaced by someone from outside the civil service who will take a tough line with Brussels”.
Richard Tice and John Longworth of the Brexit-backing business group wrote: “At each stage, Robbins has presided over a bungled negotiating position on behalf of the UK, giving leverage to the EU and acquiescing to their every whim in a way no business person would do.”
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