You do realise that the numbers for the UK are lower than forecast? Yet that's somehow a reason to get out the bunting because 'dem experts were wrong...'
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You do realise that the numbers for the UK are lower than forecast? Yet that's somehow a reason to get out the bunting because 'dem experts were wrong...'
NilSatisOptimum
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Also good old fashioned bed blocking, as the social care package for home care cannot not be implemented in many cases now, due to lack of staff!
To be fair, given the enormous pressures on society caused by the ageing population, I'd imagine most would go for a voluntary euthanasia program to free up houses and so on. By 2039 the ONS predict there will be some 8 million new pensioners in the UK. That's 31 lots of Hull you know? It's a disgrace.
NilSatisOptimum
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Think I'd rather stick with a foreign accent if it meant keeping my house a good chance of no sores in my never regions, nothing but principled Brexit.
Interesting to see France seeming to 'trade with the world' perfectly fine despite being in the bosom of the EU.
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN1GM088?__twitter_impression=true
You'd think the Indians would show some colonial loyalty or something.
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN1GM088?__twitter_impression=true
You'd think the Indians would show some colonial loyalty or something.
Oh, and the Foreign Affairs select committee have branded the 'Global Britain' thing as vacuous puff.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmfaff/780/78002.htm
Who'd have thought that Brexiteers have no substance behind their words?
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmfaff/780/78002.htm
Who'd have thought that Brexiteers have no substance behind their words?
peteblue
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Indeed Bruce, but the numbers shown merely demonstrate why I take forecasts with a pinch of salt....
peteblue
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Bruce, you keep doing this, but we will still bring in people to do these jobs, from the EU and elsewhere......
Will we? We have a high skilled visa section already in place in the bit of immigration we do control, and it is nowhere near high enough. Do you really think a Tory government who played dog whistle politics about lowering immigration to 1/3 of its current levels will raise that level even higher?
peteblue
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We will bring in who we need, why would we not do this.......I’m arguing for what you want....
Because the Tories have repeatedly pushed for a largescale reduction in immigration numbers, and many people voted to leave the European Union to help secure that. The idea that we would have an increase in migration is fanciful in the extreme.
orchard
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Unity of action and mind isn't one of their virtues, they hardly ever do what they say they will,look at may's record as home sec..besides, can't see them voting for a more expensive, more secure cleaner.
Also, they couldn't risk getting much besides mutual pay rises through parliament:
From the times:
Ministerial panic at the prospect of defeat over Brexit and key domestic policies has created the most inactive parliament for at least two decades.
Analysis by The Times shows that the number of votes held in the nine months since the general election, when Theresa May lost her majority, is lower than after every election won by David Cameron and Tony Blair.
Despite the task of rewriting British law for life outside the EU, since June MPs have voted 127 times on 40 separate days, equivalent to a third of the days on which the Commons has sat.
Legislation on post-Brexit customs rules as well as the multibillion-pound restoration of parliament has been repeatedly delayed as whips try to head off defeats on dozens of amendments. Pressing issues such as housing and social care are also being neglected.
The loss of a working majority has forced Downing Street to ditch much of Mrs May’s domestic agenda and has left her having to negotiate legislation almost line by line with Tory rebels. The Conservatives remain divided over how to implement Brexit and create a future relationship with the EU.
“It’s totally ridiculous,” one Conservative MP said. “They want us to just hang around saying everything is going marvellously, but then we don’t have the numbers to vote on anything. So we all bugger off home early and come back tomorrow to do it all again.”
Mrs May called the snap election last year in the hope of bolstering her majority to pass laws to prepare Britain for life outside the EU. Instead she fell ten seats short of an absolute majority, and had to enter a confidence-and-supply agreement with the ten DUP MPs.
Policies in the Tory manifesto including scrapping free school meals for infants, reviving grammar schools, lifting the ban on foxhunting and cutting benefits for wealthy pensioners had to be dropped. Of eight Brexit-related bills included in last summer’s slimmed-down Queen’s Speech, three have not been introduced to parliament. They cover immigration, agriculture and fisheries.
The EU withdrawal bill and the nuclear safeguards bill are both in the Lords, but will return to the Commons, where the government will have to try to reverse any amendments passed by opposition peers. The trade bill is also being debated in committee by MPs.
This week Wednesday and Thursday are to be given over to a general debate on “European affairs” without a vote. Next week the only business announced is a debate on “Welsh affairs”.
“This is an approach to parliamentary democracy known to procedural experts as: Run Away,” Philip Cowley, professor of politics at Queen Mary University of London, said.
The government risks storing up problems, with hours of Brexit-related debates and votes required before the official departure date of March 29 next year. In the nine months since the election there were 127 Commons votes, according to the PublicWhip website which records all divisions.
The number of votes is a third lower than at the start of the 2010 parliament, when the Tories formed a coalition, and that of 2015, when Mr Cameron won a majority. After Mr Blair’s wins in 1997, 2001 and 2005, the Commons held votes 143, 186 and 150 times respectively in the first nine months.
Andrea Leadsom, the Commons leader, has faced criticism for the sparse agenda. The taxation (cross-border trade) bill, also known as the customs bill, has been delayed after the Remain-supporting Tory MPs Anna Soubry and Ken Clarke tabled amendments. Mrs Leadsom told MPs last week: “We will always consider amendments that are tabled to try to improve legislation as we enter into the important decision to leave the European Union.”
The Tories have not turned up to fight opposition party motions. Labour will force a vote tomorrow on changes to childcare and free school meals. Valerie Vaz, the shadow leader of the Commons, said: “This is government-lite, a no-to-business government running out of ideas and running scared.”
Also, they couldn't risk getting much besides mutual pay rises through parliament:
From the times:
Ministerial panic at the prospect of defeat over Brexit and key domestic policies has created the most inactive parliament for at least two decades.
Analysis by The Times shows that the number of votes held in the nine months since the general election, when Theresa May lost her majority, is lower than after every election won by David Cameron and Tony Blair.
Despite the task of rewriting British law for life outside the EU, since June MPs have voted 127 times on 40 separate days, equivalent to a third of the days on which the Commons has sat.
Legislation on post-Brexit customs rules as well as the multibillion-pound restoration of parliament has been repeatedly delayed as whips try to head off defeats on dozens of amendments. Pressing issues such as housing and social care are also being neglected.
The loss of a working majority has forced Downing Street to ditch much of Mrs May’s domestic agenda and has left her having to negotiate legislation almost line by line with Tory rebels. The Conservatives remain divided over how to implement Brexit and create a future relationship with the EU.
“It’s totally ridiculous,” one Conservative MP said. “They want us to just hang around saying everything is going marvellously, but then we don’t have the numbers to vote on anything. So we all bugger off home early and come back tomorrow to do it all again.”
Mrs May called the snap election last year in the hope of bolstering her majority to pass laws to prepare Britain for life outside the EU. Instead she fell ten seats short of an absolute majority, and had to enter a confidence-and-supply agreement with the ten DUP MPs.
Policies in the Tory manifesto including scrapping free school meals for infants, reviving grammar schools, lifting the ban on foxhunting and cutting benefits for wealthy pensioners had to be dropped. Of eight Brexit-related bills included in last summer’s slimmed-down Queen’s Speech, three have not been introduced to parliament. They cover immigration, agriculture and fisheries.
The EU withdrawal bill and the nuclear safeguards bill are both in the Lords, but will return to the Commons, where the government will have to try to reverse any amendments passed by opposition peers. The trade bill is also being debated in committee by MPs.
This week Wednesday and Thursday are to be given over to a general debate on “European affairs” without a vote. Next week the only business announced is a debate on “Welsh affairs”.
“This is an approach to parliamentary democracy known to procedural experts as: Run Away,” Philip Cowley, professor of politics at Queen Mary University of London, said.
The government risks storing up problems, with hours of Brexit-related debates and votes required before the official departure date of March 29 next year. In the nine months since the election there were 127 Commons votes, according to the PublicWhip website which records all divisions.
The number of votes is a third lower than at the start of the 2010 parliament, when the Tories formed a coalition, and that of 2015, when Mr Cameron won a majority. After Mr Blair’s wins in 1997, 2001 and 2005, the Commons held votes 143, 186 and 150 times respectively in the first nine months.
Andrea Leadsom, the Commons leader, has faced criticism for the sparse agenda. The taxation (cross-border trade) bill, also known as the customs bill, has been delayed after the Remain-supporting Tory MPs Anna Soubry and Ken Clarke tabled amendments. Mrs Leadsom told MPs last week: “We will always consider amendments that are tabled to try to improve legislation as we enter into the important decision to leave the European Union.”
The Tories have not turned up to fight opposition party motions. Labour will force a vote tomorrow on changes to childcare and free school meals. Valerie Vaz, the shadow leader of the Commons, said: “This is government-lite, a no-to-business government running out of ideas and running scared.”
peteblue
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I see that even the EU MEP’s are now getting upset about Selmayr being promoted without any competition and it being railroaded through by Juncker. The EU Parliament are up in arms over this. Of course when I raised it on here, the remainers immediately defended the appointment and the process taken. Any second thoughts lads........
peteblue
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“Dutch MEP Sophie in 't' Veld warned Mr Juncker the fate of the European Commission hung in the balance as Mr Selmayr’s promotion threatened the credibility of the European Union.
She said: "‘Selmayrgate’ destroys all the credibility of the European Union as a champion of integrity and transparency in public administration.
“At times when public trust in the European Union is low, this is devastating. And the fact that the Commission remains deaf to criticism until today shows how disconnected it is from reality."
And people wonder why we voted to leave..........
She said: "‘Selmayrgate’ destroys all the credibility of the European Union as a champion of integrity and transparency in public administration.
“At times when public trust in the European Union is low, this is devastating. And the fact that the Commission remains deaf to criticism until today shows how disconnected it is from reality."
And people wonder why we voted to leave..........
tsubaki
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Pete, this is happening because we are leaving. Us out of the EU makes it even more German dominated than it was before.
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