Jib in lad
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A great singer
A great song
But I can remember days before we joined the EU - cheaper clothes and food
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Take that is RAP CRAP?
Jib in lad
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Worthy is the lamb.
might have some lamb tomorrow sunday lunch
Jib in lad
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We have a music thread already you know that don't you?
Jib in lad
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Soz Joe I'm on my second bottle of wine carry on bother.
orchard
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So you'd love a race to the bottom scenario Joey? Do you actually like cheap chod? Wouldn't you rather have a quality of life in exchange for quality production?A great singer
A great song
But I can remember days before we joined the EU - cheaper clothes and food
Joking aside though Joe, you can't use an absence of data to prove your point, especially when the data we do have suggests the opposite. You're basically saying the absence of evidence must prove your point to be true, which is rather silly.
Source: http://www.gov.uk/government/upload...A_Nationals_JULY_-_FINAL_23rd_August_2016.pdf
You will probably argue then about DWP benefits, including housing benefits, Jobseekers Allowance and other out-of-work benefits. Figures from the Department of Works and Pensions revealed that the out-of-work benefits paid to EU/EEA citizens totalled £886 million in the 2013-2014 tax year – just 3% of the total DWP budget for such benefits.
Total DWP benefits paid to EU/EEA migrants during the 2013-2014 tax year, including in work and out of work, came to £3.4 billion, meaning there was a net overall gain of £8.7 billion from EU/EEA migrants here in just one year.
Suffice to say, this isn't a complete picture and fails to include things like VAT, council tax, corporation tax and so on that EU migrants will pay, but we are looking at a net gain of £8.7bn just from the free movement of people.
How much did you say the EU 'cost' us again?
Oh, and it's worth remembering that one of those useless reforms Cameron secured before the vote was a halt on in-work benefits EU migrants could receive in their first four years in Britain. Of course, Brexiteers criticized this achievement on the grounds that so few EU migrants claim such benefits.
How times have changed.
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Two benefits mentioned there Bruce - how about impact on general services plus many other benefits etc
Example my local council are putting up my council tax 5 percent reason the EU landfill tax, and they may only empty my dust bin once per month it's at every three weeks now again they blame EU target tax !
I will write to remind them we are leaving the EU !
Example my local council are putting up my council tax 5 percent reason the EU landfill tax, and they may only empty my dust bin once per month it's at every three weeks now again they blame EU target tax !
I will write to remind them we are leaving the EU !
The items you are getting now have EU tarrifs on them on the Daily politics this week a guy came on with a 131 page booklet of tarrifs we pay outside the EU - the goods expense ranged on a average of 4-10 percent tarrifs which will disappears when we leave -we are already buying those items now with the EU - he portrayed the cheaper products, and the the ability to export tarrifs free - the EU would lose out - our deals with China alone the EU takes 3 billion alone in tarrifs off us as the single market restricts us!
As I said, it also only mentions income tax and national insurance, so won't take into account VAT, capital gains, corporation tax, council tax and all the other taxes that people will pay. As EU migrants are broadly speaking younger, their use of the NHS will be less. They are also less likely to have dependants so their use of schools etc. is also lower than the native population. What's more, because they arrive to the country as adults, we also gain the benefits of the education they received in their homeland without paying a penny.
It's ok to accept you're mistaken Joe. Probably cathartic.
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Incidentally, Joe, a UCL study suggests that the native born population take out some £600bn more than they contribute to the exchequer between 2001 and 2011. But it's the migrants that are the problem.
So you see @orly, when you break the logical argument down, what else is left? Of course, that's not to say that Joe does it consciously, but still.
So you see @orly, when you break the logical argument down, what else is left? Of course, that's not to say that Joe does it consciously, but still.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Joking aside though Joe, you can't use an absence of data to prove your point, especially when the data we do have suggests the opposite. You're basically saying the absence of evidence must prove your point to be true, which is rather silly.
Source: http://www.gov.uk/government/upload...A_Nationals_JULY_-_FINAL_23rd_August_2016.pdf
You will probably argue then about DWP benefits, including housing benefits, Jobseekers Allowance and other out-of-work benefits. Figures from the Department of Works and Pensions revealed that the out-of-work benefits paid to EU/EEA citizens totalled £886 million in the 2013-2014 tax year – just 3% of the total DWP budget for such benefits.
Total DWP benefits paid to EU/EEA migrants during the 2013-2014 tax year, including in work and out of work, came to £3.4 billion, meaning there was a net overall gain of £8.7 billion from EU/EEA migrants here in just one year.
Suffice to say, this isn't a complete picture and fails to include things like VAT, council tax, corporation tax and so on that EU migrants will pay, but we are looking at a net gain of £8.7bn just from the free movement of people.
How much did you say the EU 'cost' us again?
Oh, and it's worth remembering that one of those useless reforms Cameron secured before the vote was a halt on in-work benefits EU migrants could receive in their first four years in Britain. Of course, Brexiteers criticized this achievement on the grounds that so few EU migrants claim such benefits.
How times have changed.
That’s a very good chart. However does it require EU membership ? The jobs will still be here, the people we want will still be able to come......
Probably cardiac
Bruce the oncost of extra housing admit it is poor practice to allow immigration the population of Hull to arrive each year without controlled work permits?
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