Old Blue 2
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Duality,
What are you on about...?
What are you on about...?
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Bet you a tenner ? What grammar is that? lol
Oh no guessing about leave winning they did!
But with a capital B at the start of a sentence - Tut Tutlol
joey_macmo
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Nothing wrong with beginning a sentence with a conjunction Joey, that's a myth which lets be honest is extremely fitting.
What else is there? There's precious little evidence that leaving is a good thing. Few reputable organisations think it is, so all reputable organisations are therefore ignored (we don't need experts - or Googling in Joe's terminology). It's no use trying to understand what exactly the 'will of the people' is, because it's impossible to survey everyone so all surveys are therefore useless (the irony that the referendum itself wasn't voted on by all of the people is lost). Likewise, we can't extrapolate or plan for the future, because plans are always wrong, so we may as well not bother.
It's a rational argument versus an emotional one. On this thread leavers hope and believe that Brexit will work out, but they do so based upon little more than a gut feeling, and all evidence to suggest otherwise is swatted away as irrelevant. They haven't produced a single bit of evidence, either from external or government sources, on what the governments Brexit strategy is or how that strategy will impact the economy (much less the people that reside here). Nada. We just have to believe.
If that's how debate works then it's a pretty rum kind of debate.
I'm sure also that Joe, and indeed any of us here, could speak as well in a second language as Dualz does in here.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Joe giving it the grammar Nazi is surely a parody?
The irony of you not understanding clear text but understanding "tenner" is hilarious to me.
And that's how debate is - pick a single word, ignore the rest. Amazing.
Well said @Bruce Wayne btw
Wonky vegetables.
joey_macmo
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Most of the thread is tbh
Charlie Sweet
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At least when there's another European referendum in 10 years time the demographics of the time will ensure that the pro-European side will win.
Take out a few maveric OAP entrepreneurs who have more money than sense and I dont recall any mainstream businesses or analyst firms advocating to Leave. Add to that the facts that, generally, the Leave vote constituted a massively lower level of formal education and I think its a fair statement that the influence of rabid anti-Europe newspapers like the Mail, Express and the S#n had a massively undemocratic effect on proceedings.
In my opinion the main weight of the Leave vote was two groups - (1) those at the lower end of the working spectrum that were either losing their jobs to unskilled migrants or that they resented the fact those migrants would actually get out of bed for the minimum wage or (2) an older generation that grew up in a post war era where their glorious Britannia had lots its Empire and its place at the top table of global affairs. This electorate persisted in the view that we only had to "take back control" and a magic wand would be waived and Britain's glory would be restored. Couple that with them equally growing up in the decades of the 60s, 70s and 80s when mainstresm TV featured outright racism and xenophobia and you have a pretty determined Leave voter.
Throw in a few blatant lies decked out on campaign buses and, really, the Remain side did well to even get 48%!
Take out a few maveric OAP entrepreneurs who have more money than sense and I dont recall any mainstream businesses or analyst firms advocating to Leave. Add to that the facts that, generally, the Leave vote constituted a massively lower level of formal education and I think its a fair statement that the influence of rabid anti-Europe newspapers like the Mail, Express and the S#n had a massively undemocratic effect on proceedings.
In my opinion the main weight of the Leave vote was two groups - (1) those at the lower end of the working spectrum that were either losing their jobs to unskilled migrants or that they resented the fact those migrants would actually get out of bed for the minimum wage or (2) an older generation that grew up in a post war era where their glorious Britannia had lots its Empire and its place at the top table of global affairs. This electorate persisted in the view that we only had to "take back control" and a magic wand would be waived and Britain's glory would be restored. Couple that with them equally growing up in the decades of the 60s, 70s and 80s when mainstresm TV featured outright racism and xenophobia and you have a pretty determined Leave voter.
Throw in a few blatant lies decked out on campaign buses and, really, the Remain side did well to even get 48%!
Ron Swanson
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Grammer Nazi is an unfair tag. They prefer 'Alt-write' these days.
You and your bestest mate morelikelol
Ron Swanson
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The EU are not shafting us, and it's important to remember that. WE are shafting us - the EU is just looking out for it's 27 countries who don't deserve to suffer for our stupidity.
Oh, look, inflation is up at it's highest since 2012 so we now have the highest inflation and lowest growth in the EU. Yayyyy! Gooooooo Brexit!
Just like you're not exactly the same, and I'd say even worse, with Pete and OldBlue lol lol
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