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I like David Davis, he has a way of bringing people together, he does however look a bit shattered. I would ensure he has a heavyweight assistant or helper..........
 
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"Experience conducting Impact Assessments strongly preferred"
What do you need an assessment for?
We are leaving either in a nice way or we just walk away with No deal
WTO rules the chief has stated we would fair well in the world on and we would save 50 billion Euros and the EU would be stuffed like s turkey at Xmas!
They would have to do a trade deal with us calll their bluff imo!
The only people worried would be the greedy Rich bankers who caused a world recession in 2008!
 
Sorry for my outburst genuinely out of order had bad news about my health this week still want us to leave the EU though !
No probs mate and sorry to hear that news, I'm also coming to terms with some awful health news in recent weeks so we're on the same page Joey lad,
 
What do you need an assessment for?
We are leaving either in a nice way or we just walk away with No deal
WTO rules the chief has stated we would fair well in the world on and we would save 50 billion Euros and the EU would be stuffed like s turkey at Xmas!
They would have to do a trade deal with us calll their bluff imo!
The only people worried would be the greedy Rich bankers who caused a world recession in 2008!

Do you know how many countries operate on just WTO levels Joe?
 
No analysis of what will happen after the UK leaves the EU, pull the other one Davis. What credibility he ever had - very little- has been blown.
What Brexit impact papers? Take our quiz on what David Davis said


The Brexit secretary says there are no sectoral reports on the effects of leaving the EU. See if you can identify the times he previously mentioned them




David Davis with a briefcase that definitely doesn’t have 58 impact reports in it. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images
Martin Belam

Thursday 7 December 2017 10.35 GMTLast modified on Thursday 7 December 2017 11.09 GMT

David Davis told a committee of MPs on Wednesday that the UK government had produced no economic forecasts on the likely impact of Brexit on various sectors of the economy.

It seemed to stand in marked contrast to many of the things he had said beforeabout analysis being carried out by his Department for Exiting the European Union (DExEU).

See if you can identify where and when Davis has previously talked about the impact studies and analysis being carried out on a sectoral basis.

Can you identify when and where David Davis said these things?
“It will take some months to analyse many of the industrial and commercial effects of various options, and to do the analysis on the negotiating balance – where our allies might and might not be. We will take some time – the process has already started.”

House of Lords select committee on the European Union – 12 September 2016

He did not say it

“There is the sectoral analysis: they [staff at DExEU] are working through about 50 cross-cutting sectors – what is going to happen to them, what the problems of those industrial groups are, and so on.”

House of Commons foreign affairs committee – 13 September 2016

He did not say it

“The government continue to undertake a wide range of analysis covering all parts of the UK to inform the UK’s position for the upcoming negotiation with the European partners.”
House of Commons – 20 October 2016

He did not say it

“We currently have in place an assessment of 51 sectors of the economy.”
House of Commons – 20 October 2016

He did not say that

“We are carrying out an extensive programme of sectoral analysis on the key factors that affect our negotiations with the European Union.”

House of Commons – 1 December 2016

He did not say this

“The department is carrying out a programme of work to analyse the economic significance and trade dynamics of more than 50 sectors of the economy. That includes analysis at both national and regional levels.”

House of Commons – 1 December 2016

He did not say that

“We are in the midst of carrying out about 57 sets of analyses, each of which has implications for individual parts of 85% of the economy. Some of those are still to be concluded.”

House of Commons exiting the European Union committee – 14 December 2016

He did not say it

“We continue to analyse the impact of our exit across the breadth of the UK economy, covering more than 50 sectors – I think it was 58 at the last count – to shape our negotiating position.”

House of Commons – 2 February 2017

He did not say that

“In my job I don’t think out loud and I don’t make guesses. Those two things. I try and make decisions. You make those based on the data. That data’s being gathered. We’ve got 50, nearly 60 sector analyses already done.”

Andrew Marr Show – 25 June 2017

He did not say that

“She [Theresa May] will know the summary outcomes of them. She will not necessarily have read every single one. They are in excruciating detail.”

House of Commons exiting the European Union committee – 25 October 2017

He did not say that
“We too are conducting a broad range of analysis at the macroeconomic and sectoral level to understand the impact of leaving the EU on all aspects of the UK, including the agriculture sector.”

Statement attached to a letter from Davis to Lady Verma, chair of the House of Lords EU external affairs sub-committee – 30 October 2017

He did not say that

“It is not the case that 58 sectoral impact assessments exist.”

Written statement to parliament – 7 November 2017

He did not say that
“There is no systematic impact assessment.”

House of Commons exiting the EU committee – 7 December 2017

He did not say that
 
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Do you know how many countries operate on just WTO levels Joe?
164 and the EU countiries who restrict us from getting cheaper tariffs Bruce - not 27 of some who not contribute a single penny to the EU budget they just gain- the EU is not free it takes 8- 10 Billion pounds off us per year.
It also dictates where our rebates are spent so the joining fee esculates if that money is squandered!
Then you have the four main laws which implodes immigration on a city the size of Hull entering every year - some work very hard, but the pressure of our countries social structure
Is that high it cannot sustain this onslaught of immigration in and outside the EU - border controls are needed - for that we have to be outside the four freedoms Bruce hence 17. 4 milllion U.K. Citizens voted OUT, we have.ived outside this inner sanctum before Bruce it can be done again!
The James Obrians and Clegg of this world need to sod off - self interested Liberals who will not accept democracy!
 
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164 and the EU countiries who restrict us from getting cheaper tariffs Bruce - not 27 of some who not contribute a single penny to the EU budget they just gain- the EU is not free it takes 8- 10 million pounds off us per year.
It also dictates where our rebates are spent so the joining fee esculates if that money is squandered

I sound a bit like a broken record I'm afraid Joe, but that isn't true. Of the 164 WTO members, just 7 of them trade with the EU on WTO terms. Those seven include such heavyweight economies as Cuba and Venuzuela. All of the remaining 157 have trade deals with them (that we're walking away from).
 
I sound a bit like a broken record I'm afraid Joe, but that isn't true. Of the 164 WTO members, just 7 of them trade with the EU on WTO terms. Those seven include such heavyweight economies as Cuba and Venuzuela. All of the remaining 157 have trade deals with them (that we're walking away from).
This is what club we are walking away from Bruce here is the contribution list so you state its fair and the best thing since sliced bread well you are wrong- 2017 contributions - if I was in a golf club with these rules I would just leave -
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It's not going well because the PM needs to go and be replaced by a Brexiteer PM
Labour are also all over the place on Brexit!

To be fair to May, she's been as hard Brexit as the hardest Brexiteer since the referendum.

The issue isn't her as a politician; it's the fact she got her arse handed to her at the election and has no authority, combined with the fact that replacing her means a General Election and the Tories losing handily, probably meaning no Brexit at all.

So you can blame May only as far as her arrogance in calling that snap election IMO.
 
To be fair to May, she's been as hard Brexit as the hardest Brexiteer since the referendum.

The issue isn't her as a politician; it's the fact she got her arse handed to her at the election and has no authority, combined with the fact that replacing her means a General Election and the Tories losing handily, probably meaning no Brexit at all.

So you can blame May only as far as her arrogance in calling that snap election IMO.
Look at her record as HS then her so called election - then this cock up - the vultures are gathering she will not last it out!
 
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