Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Toffeeslam said:
Anyone else think that the post Brexit plan seems to be all sunshine and fairy dust ? I mean it's all talking a good game replacing the EU trade with fictional trade deals that don't exist?

We seen what the Americans will give us under Trump, it's called a 300% import tax.
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It doesn’t really matter though, EU trade in total is only about 10% of our gdp, you’d think it was 90% the way some folk go on.....
 
Toffeeslam said:
Anyone else think that the post Brexit plan seems to be all sunshine and fairy dust ? I mean it's all talking a good game replacing the EU trade with fictional trade deals that don't exist?

We seen what the Americans will give us under Trump, it's called a 300% import tax.
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Only one problem with that USA example they have given us that import tax while we are still in the EU , isn't being a member supposed to stop things like that happening ?
 
peteblue said:
What does this cliff look like, is it on the same terms that USA, China and every other country deals with the EU, have they walked off a cliff, or were they at the bottom of the cliff anyway. So when does the EU, which sells far more to us then we do to them, fall off a cliff, or do we just pretend it’s only us that suffers. I think the term is ‘grow a pair’, stand up and be what you want to be, stop kowtowing to Brussels and the folk that daily are showing that they really don’t like us.....
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A political philosophy fit for the greats.
 
WTO looks on the horizon - till the EU stop messing about then they will discuss trade deals - that's how I see it panning out!
The EU never do anything efficiently or cheaply then a scurry will happen to cement a deal or we will have to walk away from this horrid organisation!
 
It’s good to see that we will now prepare for a ‘no deal scenario’. The U.K. has been quite accommodating with the EU and Theresa May really went out on a limb with her Florence speech. If, come the October EU council meeting, the heads of the EU states still refuse to discuss the future trading relationship, then we must start to look after ourselves and gear up accordingly.....
 
peteblue said:
It’s good to see that we will now prepare for a ‘no deal scenario’. The U.K. has been quite accommodating with the EU and Theresa May really went out on a limb with her Florence speech. If, come the October EU council meeting, the heads of the EU states still refuse to discuss the future trading relationship, then we must start to look after ourselves and gear up accordingly.....
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To be honest, I'm staggered that a whole range of scenarios weren't constructed prior to the bloody referendum in the first place. I mean that is how most organisations approach the future, yet this government seem to be making up as they go along.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
To be honest, I'm staggered that a whole range of scenarios weren't constructed prior to the bloody referendum in the first place. I mean that is how most organisations approach the future, yet this government seem to be making up as they go along.
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There was a terrible failure by the then government to do so because they could only envision one outcome. It never occurred to our ruling and political classes, both in Brussels and Westminster, that the people had just had enough...
 
Bruce Wayne said:
To be honest, I'm staggered that a whole range of scenarios weren't constructed prior to the bloody referendum in the first place. I mean that is how most organisations approach the future, yet this government seem to be making up as they go along.
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you know why - there was no need for scenarios, no way they were going to lose, which is why the vote took place at all. I mean who in their right mind would allow a vote for something they were basically against, if they thought they would lose...It's the whole Turkey / Christmas thing.
 
peteblue said:
It’s good to see that we will now prepare for a ‘no deal scenario’. The U.K. has been quite accommodating with the EU and Theresa May really went out on a limb with her Florence speech. If, come the October EU council meeting, the heads of the EU states still refuse to discuss the future trading relationship, then we must start to look after ourselves and gear up accordingly.....
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It's political fluff aimed at trying to say that we're ready for any eventuality, when they know fine well that we're not. It'll be a physical impossibility for the UK to be truly ready for WTO terms in Spring of 2019.

Why did they not start this planning on June 23rd last year btw?
 
peteblue said:
There will be nothing to go back into, it will be a single country called the United States of Europe, or Greater Germany, or Russia.......
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you think?
The trend may not be to go forward like that, but to go back into the many small states like Catalonia, Saxony, Picardy etc.
 
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